Episodes

  • China and AI Supply Chains with TP Huang
    Apr 28 2026

    In this special crossover episode, I talk with TP Huang about the broader AI supply chain beyond just models and chips. We cover the new DeepSeek V4 model and China’s efforts to integrate with domestic AI chips. We talk about energy infrastructure, like inverters and transformers. And we discuss the robotics supply chain and how this overlaps with smartphones, EVs, and other industries in China.

    Note: TP Huang is not on video, just audio.

    00:00 Intro

    01:13 DeepSeek V4 and Huawei chips

    13:01 Hardware and Infrastructure Bottlenecks

    21:03 Energy supply chain

    29:58 Edge AI and small models

    35:14 Embodied AI and robotics

    39:14 China's robotics supply chain

    45:43 Different tech paths

    53:32 Commercializing scientific advances

    58:44 Personal journeys in China tech

    Links:

    • Follow TP Huang on Twitter / X
    • TP’s Substack and China Tech Talk podcast

    For transcripts and more, check out the High Capacity newsletter.

    I'm your host, Kyle Chan, a Fellow at Brookings.

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    1 hr and 12 mins
  • Z.ai: Inside a Top Chinese AI Lab
    Apr 7 2026

    This episode, I talk with Zixuan Li at Z.ai, one of China's top AI labs and the company behind the popular GLM models. Zixuan is Z.ai's Director of Product for genAI strategy and global partnerships. We discuss Z.ai's newest flagship AI model, the challenges of building agentic AI models, and what their longer AI strategy looks like.

    00:00 Intro to Zixuan Li of Z.ai

    00:29 GLM-5.1, Z.ai's Newest Flagship Model

    04:34 Long Horizon Tasks

    08:33 GLM Family of Foundation Models

    14:30 Challenges in Developing Agentic AI Models

    19:37 Working with Chinese AI Chipmakers

    22:53 Open Source vs. Proprietary Models

    36:49 Life After IPO and Chasing AGI

    41:37 Z.ai's Global Strategy

    Links:

    • Z.ai
    • GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks
    • Zixuan on X/Twitter

    For transcripts and more, check out the High Capacity newsletter.

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    48 mins
  • China's Tech Strengths & Weaknesses with Rui Ma
    Apr 1 2026

    Rui Ma, founder of Tech Buzz China, explains the real sources of China's tech strengths and where the US still has the advantage. From industrial parks to capital markets, we talk about how to understand China's tech landscape at a deeper level -- and why so many people are eager to tour Chinese factories.Links:

    • Tech Buzz China
    • Tech Buzz China newsletter
    • Rui Ma on X / Twitter

    For transcripts and more, check out the High Capacity newsletter

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    58 mins
  • China's New AI Wave: Agents, Open Source, OpenClaw and More with Tom Wang at Hugging Face
    Mar 19 2026

    Tom Wang, Hugging Face's head of APAC ecosystem, joins me to talk about the latest wave of Chinese AI models, how China's AI open source ecosystem works, the rise of AI agents and OpenClaw in China, and more.Links:- Tom Wang on Twitter / X- Tom Wang on Hugging FaceFor transcripts and more, check out the High Capacity newsletter

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    1 hr and 1 min
  • How China is Riding the Open Source Wave with Kevin Xu
    Mar 10 2026

    From DeepSeek to Kimi, China's open-source AI models have gotten all the attention. But open source has a much longer history in China, according to Kevin Xu, former head of global expansion strategy at GitHub. Kevin takes us on a journey through China's open source evolution, from its grassroots beginnings to its central role today in China's AI strategy. We also get into the current OpenClaw craze in China and why Chinese tech firms seem to be jumping in faster than their American peers.


    00:00 Intro to Kevin Xu

    04:21 Early days of Chinese open source

    16:11 1024 Programmers' Day and 996.ICU

    27:33 Huawei enters the game

    41:57 DeepSeek moment

    51:17 China's OpenClaw frenzy

    56:40 Will China keep doing open-source?


    Links:

    • Chinese Open Source: A Definitive History
    • Kevin Xu's Interconnected newsletter
    • Interconnected Capital
    • Kevin Xu on Twitter / X

    For transcripts and more, check out the High Capacity newsletter

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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • Are There Tech Bros in China? China's Tech Culture with Afra Wang
    Feb 26 2026

    What's China's tech culture really like? Are there billionaire tech founders? Are they worshipped like they are in the US? What inspires Chinese tech entrepreneurs?


    00:00 Intro to Afra Wang

    00:33 What is Chinese tech culture?

    09:04 China's 4 tech generations

    20:25 China's tech founders and the government

    25:42 China's tech canon

    44:12 Chinese sci-fi and tech culture

    50:43 Chinese ideas of industrial power


    Links:

    - Concurrent newsletter

    - Afra's professional website

    - Wired: You've Never Heard of China's Greatest Sci-Fi Novel

    - Asterisk: The China Tech Canon

    - Afra on Twitter / X


    Transcripts and more on the High Capacity newsletter

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    1 hr and 10 mins
  • China's Robotaxis and Autonomous Driving with Lei Xing
    Feb 12 2026

    A deep dive into China's robotaxi and autonomous driving industry. What are the big trends? Who are the major players? LiDAR vs. camera-only? How good are Chinese robotaxis? Where are they going next? I'm joined by China EV and AV expert Lei Xing in this episode of the High Capacity podcast.

    00:00 Intro to Lei Xing

    01:06 Smart driving vs. autonomous driving

    06:37 Chinese government policy for autonomous vehicles

    13:44 What's it like to ride a Chinese robotaxi?

    19:29 China's different robotaxi strategies

    29:30 Huawei as a major player

    35:11 AI and autonomous driving in China

    41:25 Semiconductor chips and smart driving

    47:21 Shifting geopolitical landscape

    53:40 Commercial trucking and delivery robots

    Follow Lei Xing:

    • Twitter / X

    • LinkedIn

    • YouTube

    • China EVs & More podcast

    For transcripts and more episodes, check out the High Capacity newsletter.

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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • China's AI Ecosystem with Grace Shao
    Jan 29 2026

    China's top AI players like Alibaba, ByteDance, and Moonshot are pursuing different strategies. China AI expert Grace Shao joins me on the High Capacity podcast to talk about the most important trends in China's AI landscape: agentic AI, ecosystem integration, raising capital, and navigating geopolitics.

    00:00 Intro to Grace Shao

    03:51 Agentic AI in China

    17:42 The popularity of ByteDance's Doubao app

    23:11 China's AI tigers

    28:42 Shifts in China's AI strategy

    34:32 Meta's acquisition of Manus

    40:43 Singapore as a geopolitical gateway for AI

    50:12 Future trends in China's AI industry

    Links:

    • AI Proem newsletter
    • Differentiated Understanding podcast
    • High Capacity newsletter
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    59 mins