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Hey pal, it's more or less complicated. (With Grace Rutherford)

Hey pal, it's more or less complicated. (With Grace Rutherford)

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You're invited to listen to me and my dear pal Grace chat about being a bossy kid, growing up around the down syndrome community, and how prayer got entire therapy team fired.

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