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  • Did You Know Jesus Prays for You? John 17: Daily Devotional, Daily Bible Study

    Did You Know Jesus Prays for You? John 17: Daily Devotional, Daily Bible Study
    Dec 26 2025
    Did You Know Jesus Prays for You? John 17: Daily Devotional, Daily Bible Study In this episode, Rachael Groll opens up about her own painful and beautiful journey through adoption and how that season transformed her understanding of prayer and the way Jesus prays for us. Looking at John 17, she reflects on Jesus’ prayer for His followers: a prayer filled with longing for unity, protection, and a deep, relational knowledge of God. Rachael unpacks what it means to live in a broken world while staying rooted in God’s truth, and she invites listeners to think about how their prayers, choices, and presence can make a real impact. This episode offers a powerful reminder that Jesus is still interceding for us and that we are meant to carry His heart into the world. ☆Pick up a copy of my latest book: Knowing God’s Voice ☆Go Deeper and Learn to Hear God’s Voice: Knowing Jesus Course ☆Get Ad-Free Episodes, Bonus Content, and more here: ⁠ patreon.com/HearingJesus ☆To Learn More About Sponsoring a Child, check out Compassion International here:➤ Sponsor a Child ☆Go on a trip with Rachael: Bible Study Live ☆Have a question for Rachael? Ask it here: Ask Rachael a Question ☆If you would like to give to Hearing Jesus and financially support the podcast, you can do so here ! ➤ Give Here ☆Facebook ➤https://www.facebook.com/SheHears.org/ ☆Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/rachael.d.groll/ ☆Website ➤ Hearing Jesus Takeaways Rachael shares her emotional journey through a difficult adoption process. The Holy Spirit intercedes for us in our moments of despair. Jesus' prayers are intentional and invite us into intimacy with God. Eternal life is about knowing God in a personal relationship. Our prayers should align with God's mission and purpose. Jesus prays for the unity and protection of his disciples. Believers are called to be in the world but not of it. The unity among believers reflects God's love to the world. Discipleship involves active participation in God's mission. Our relationship with God should influence our actions in the world. Chapters 00:00 The Journey of Adoption and Prayer 01:42 Understanding Jesus' High Priestly Prayer 07:12 Praying for Disciples: Unity and Protection 13:04 Jesus' Prayer for Future Believers 18:14 Living in the World: Discipleship and Intimacy with God Bible, Bible Study, Devotions, Devotional, Daily Devotional, Prayer, Jesus, God, Holy Spirit, Spiritual Growth, hearing God’s voice, Hearing God, Hearing Jesus, Praying, Pray, God’s Word, Scriptures Hearing Jesus, Knowing God's Voice, Female Prophets, Bible Study, Spiritual Growth, Christian Podcast, Faith Journey, Obedience, God's Communication, Personal Reflections, prophecy, faith, surrender, spiritual gifts, women's ministry, Christian podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    26 mins
  • Friday- God is My Safe Place: Daily Affirmations, Christian Affirmations, Biblical Affirmations, Affirmations

    Friday- God is My Safe Place: Daily Affirmations, Christian Affirmations, Biblical Affirmations, Affirmations
    Dec 26 2025
    Friday- God is My Safe Place: Daily Affirmations, Christian Affirmations, Biblical Affirmations, Affirmations End your week anchored in peace and presence. This episode invites listeners to release their burdens and find rest in God’s care. With each affirmation and verse, you’re reminded that you’re not alone—God’s strength, love, and renewal are available right where you are. It’s time to stop striving and start resting in His goodness. AD-FREE Daily Affirmations can be found on my Patreon at: https://www.patreon.com/c/HearingJesus Affirmations for rest, renewal, and surrender: The week is ending, and as we step into the weekend, let’s take a moment to breathe. Release our burdens and rest in God’s presence. We’re not meant to carry everything ourselves. God calls us to lay our worries at His feet and find renewal in Him. Repeat after me, then listen to the Bible verse. I release my worries and trust God to handle what I cannot. 1 Peter 5:7 God’s peace fills my heart and I rest in His presence. Matthew 11:28 I am not defined by my mistakes. God’s grace is greater than my failures. Lamentations 3:22–23 I let go of the need to control everything and surrender to God’s perfect plan. Proverbs 3:5–6 I am deeply loved by God and nothing can separate me from His love. Romans 8:38–39 God refreshes my soul and renews my strength. Isaiah 40:31 I will be fully present today, trusting that God holds tomorrow. Matthew 6:34 My body, mind, and spirit find rest in God alone. Psalm 62:1 I let go of striving and choose to rest in God’s love. Zephaniah 3:17 I step into the weekend with joy, knowing that God is in control. Psalm 118:24 God’s presence is my safe place. Psalm 91:1 I am fully known and fully loved by God. Psalm 139:1–2 I will not let stress steal my peace today. Philippians 4:6–7 God is my refuge and I am safe in His hands. Psalm 46:1 I do not need to have all the answers. I trust God. Romans 11:33 God is fighting my battles and I can rest in His victory. Exodus 14:14 I will not fear because God is with me. Isaiah 41:13 I am held together by God’s love even when life feels overwhelming. Colossians 1:17 God’s goodness and mercy follow me every day. Psalm 23:6 I will not carry burdens that God has already taken from me. Matthew 11:29–30 I am at peace because God is in control. Isaiah 26:3 I trust in God’s timing even when I don’t understand. Ecclesiastes 3:11 I will lay down my burdens and take on God’s. Psalm 4:8 I am never alone for God is always with me. Deuteronomy 31:6 No matter what happens today, God is still good. Nahum 1:7 Closing Prayer: Father, as this week comes to an end, I lay my burdens at Your feet. Help me to release my worries, rest in Your peace, and trust You with everything I cannot control. Refresh my heart and renew my spirit so I can step into the weekend with joy. In Jesus’ name, amen. I hope these affirmations spoke to your heart today. If you want to go deeper, just keep listening. Your full Bible study episode is coming up next. #ChristianPodcast #DailyAffirmations #FaithOverFear #BiblicalTruth #MorningDevotions #RenewYourMind #HearingJesusPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    10 mins
  • Thursday – Making an Impact for God: Daily Affirmations, Christian Affirmations, Biblical Affirmations, Affirmations

    Thursday – Making an Impact for God: Daily Affirmations, Christian Affirmations, Biblical Affirmations, Affirmations
    Dec 25 2025
    Thursday – Making an Impact for God: Daily Affirmations, Christian Affirmations, Biblical Affirmations, Affirmations You were created on purpose—for a purpose. In this episode of Daily Affirmations, we focus on walking with intention, clarity, and wisdom, grounded in God’s truth. Whether you’re questioning your calling or navigating a new season, these affirmations help you trust God’s plan, listen for His guidance, and move forward with boldness. AD-FREE Daily Affirmations can be found on my Patreon at: https://www.patreon.com/c/HearingJesus God created you for a reason. Your life is not an accident, and your steps are not random. He has a plan for you—a purpose that brings glory to Him and fulfillment to your heart. As you listen to these affirmations, let them remind you that God is leading, guiding, and equipping you for everything He has called you to do. I’ll say the affirmation, pause so you can repeat it after me, and then share the Scripture reference it’s based on. Affirmations and Scriptures: God has a purpose for my life and I walk in His plan. Jeremiah 29:11 I trust in the Lord to guide my steps. Proverbs 3:5–6 I seek wisdom, and God gives it freely. James 1:5 God is directing my steps and I do not walk alone. Psalm 37:23 I am a light in this world, shining for Christ. Matthew 5:14 God has prepared good works for me to do today. Ephesians 2:10 I am equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:17 I walk in the power of the Holy Spirit. Acts 1:8 I will walk in faith, not in fear. 2 Timothy 1:7 God’s Word lights my path. Psalm 119:105 I choose obedience, knowing God’s ways are best. Deuteronomy 5:33 I live with purpose and do not waste my time. Ephesians 5:15–16 I am called to make an impact for God’s Kingdom. Matthew 28:19–20 I have the mind of Christ and seek His wisdom daily. 1 Corinthians 2:16 I am a vessel for God’s work. 2 Corinthians 4:7 I will not grow weary in doing good. Galatians 6:9 God’s purpose for me cannot be stopped. Job 42:2 I do everything for the glory of God. Colossians 3:23 God is using my life to accomplish His plan. Romans 8:28 I am bold in sharing the gospel. Romans 1:16 I walk in step with the Spirit. Galatians 5:25 I remain steadfast in my calling. 1 Corinthians 15:58 God will finish the work He started in me. Philippians 1:6 I live with an eternal perspective. Colossians 3:2 I press forward in my faith, knowing my reward is in Heaven. Philippians 3:13–14 Closing Prayer: Father, thank You for calling me to a life of purpose. Help me to walk in wisdom today, seeking You in all I do. Give me clarity where I need direction, courage where I need boldness, and a heart that is always ready to serve You. Let my life bring You glory. In Jesus’ name, amen. I hope these affirmations spoke to your heart today. If you want to go deeper, just keep listening—your full Bible study episode is coming up next. Listen daily and start your morning with God’s truth so you can walk in faith, clarity, and confidence. #ChristianPodcast #DailyAffirmations #FaithOverFear #BiblicalTruth #MorningDevotions #RenewYourMind #HearingJesusPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    9 mins
  • What Does it Mean to Ask For Something In Jesus Name? John 16: Daily Devotional, Daily Bible Study

    What Does it Mean to Ask For Something In Jesus Name? John 16: Daily Devotional, Daily Bible Study
    Dec 24 2025
    What Does it Mean to Ask For Something In Jesus Name? John 16: Daily Devotional, Daily Bible Study In this episode, Rachael Groll talks honestly about the ache of saying goodbye to the people we love and how that same grief sits inside the story of the disciples as Jesus prepares to leave them. She explains how Jesus doesn’t ignore their fear or sorrow but promises something better — the Holy Spirit, the One who guides, comforts, and fills us with a joy the world can’t take away. Rachael explores what it looks like to surrender our need for control so we can experience real peace in the middle of life’s trials, and she shows how relational prayer becomes the place where that peace takes root. ☆Pick up a copy of my latest book: Knowing God’s Voice ☆Go Deeper and Learn to Hear God’s Voice: Knowing Jesus Course ☆Get Ad-Free Episodes, Bonus Content, and more here: ⁠ patreon.com/HearingJesus⁠ John 15 ☆To Learn More About Sponsoring a Child, check out Compassion International here: ➤ Sponsor a Child ☆Go on a trip with Rachael: Bible Study Live ☆Have a question for Rachael? Ask it here: Ask Rachael a Question ☆If you would like to give to Hearing Jesus and financially support the podcast, you can do so here ! ➤ Give Here ☆Facebook ➤https://www.facebook.com/SheHears.org/ ☆Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/rachael.d.groll/ ☆Website ➤ Hearing Jesus Takeaways Saying goodbye can be emotionally challenging. The disciples faced uncertainty with Jesus' departure. Jesus prepared his disciples for future challenges. The Holy Spirit is a constant source of guidance. Grief can transform into joy through faith. Asking in Jesus' name means aligning with His will. Peace comes from being rooted in God amidst trials. Surrendering control is essential for spiritual growth. The Holy Spirit reveals truth and empowers believers. Following Jesus often requires countercultural choices. Chapters 00:00 Navigating Goodbyes: A Personal Reflection 03:08 Preparing for Change: Jesus and His Disciples 06:04 The Promise of the Holy Spirit 09:11 Transformative Joy: From Grief to Joy 11:55 Relational Prayer: Asking in His Name 17:03 Peace in Tribulation: Jesus' Assurance 20:00 Surrendering Control: The Path to Joy Bible, Bible Study, Devotions, Devotional, Daily Devotional, Prayer, Jesus, God, Holy Spirit, Spiritual Growth, hearing God’s voice, Hearing God, Hearing Jesus, Praying, Pray, God’s Word, Scriptures Hearing Jesus, Knowing God's Voice, Female Prophets, Bible Study, Spiritual Growth, Christian Podcast, Faith Journey, Obedience, God's Communication, Personal Reflections, prophecy, faith, surrender, spiritual gifts, women's ministry, Christian podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    29 mins
  • Wednesday- God Is My Rock: Daily Affirmations, Christian Affirmations, Biblical Affirmations, Affirmations

    Wednesday- God Is My Rock: Daily Affirmations, Christian Affirmations, Biblical Affirmations, Affirmations
    Dec 24 2025
    Wednesday- God Is My Rock: Daily Affirmations, Christian Affirmations, Biblical Affirmations, Affirmations In today’s Wednesday Affirmations episode, Rachael leads listeners through declarations of peace, trust, and confidence grounded in Scripture. As the world feels overwhelming, these affirmations anchor the listener in God’s promises. From surrendering anxiety to trusting God’s timing, each statement is followed by a full Bible verse designed to renew faith and calm the heart. This episode is a gentle reminder that God’s peace isn’t just a feeling—it’s a promise. AD-FREE Daily Affirmations can be found on my Patreon at: https://www.patreon.com/c/HearingJesus Today’s daily affirmations are for peace and trust in God’s plan. I will say the statement, then pause so you can repeat it after me. Then I’ll share the Scripture reference where it comes from. Breathe in God’s peace… and exhale your worries. This day is a gift, and no matter what’s ahead, you can trust that God is in control. His love is steady. His plans for you are good. His presence goes before you. Let these affirmations remind you to trust Him today. Affirmations and Scriptures: I am ruled by God’s peace today. Isaiah 26:3 I cast all my worries onto Jesus—He carries them for me. 1 Peter 5:7 I will not be anxious. I will pray and trust God. Philippians 4:6–7 God’s plans for me are good, and I trust Him. Jeremiah 29:11 I do not need to worry about tomorrow. Matthew 6:34 I will rest in God’s presence today. Exodus 33:14 God is my refuge and strength. Psalm 46:1 I will not let my heart be troubled. I trust in God. John 14:27 The Lord directs my steps. Proverbs 3:5–6 Even when I don’t understand, I trust in God’s wisdom. Romans 11:33 I do not have to be afraid because God is with me. Deuteronomy 31:8 God is fighting for me. Exodus 14:14 I am not alone. God walks with me. Isaiah 41:13 God is my rock and salvation. I will not be shaken. Psalm 62:6 I find rest in God alone. Psalm 62:1 God’s love never fails me. Lamentations 3:22–23 I have peace because I am in Christ. John 16:33 I wait on the Lord and He renews my strength. Isaiah 40:31 I will trust in God, even when I don’t see the whole picture. 2 Corinthians 5:7 God is working all things for my good. Romans 8:28 God’s peace rules in my heart today. Colossians 3:15 I give my burdens to the Lord and He sustains me. Psalm 55:22 I will be still and know that He is God. Psalm 46:10 I trust God’s timing and His ways. Ecclesiastes 3:11 I will rejoice in the Lord always. Philippians 4:4 Closing Prayer: Father, I surrender my worries to You. I choose to rest in Your peace today, trusting that You are in control. Fill my heart with faith instead of fear, and let Your peace guard my mind. In Jesus’ name, amen. I hope these affirmations spoke to your heart today. If you want to go deeper, just keep listening—your full Bible study episode is coming up next. Listen daily and start your morning with God’s truth so you can walk in faith, clarity, and confidence. #ChristianPodcast #DailyAffirmations #FaithOverFear #BiblicalTruth #MorningDevotions #RenewYourMind #HearingJesusPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    10 mins
  • Loving Boldly in the Face of Opposition: John 15:12-27 : Daily Devotional, Daily Bible Study

    Loving Boldly in the Face of Opposition: John 15:12-27 : Daily Devotional, Daily Bible Study
    Dec 23 2025
    Loving Boldly in the Face of Opposition: John 15:12-27: Daily Devotional, Daily Bible Study In this episode of the Hearing Jesus podcast, Rachael Groll addresses the unique challenges Christians face when sharing the gospel when it’s in contrast to the world. She reflects on John 15, highlighting Jesus’ call to love others as He loved us, even when it comes with criticism, misunderstanding, or hostility. Rachael emphasizes the vital role of the Holy Spirit as our guide and source of strength, helping us abide in Christ and experience joy and peace despite opposition. Listeners are encouraged to embrace the cost of following Jesus, respond with intentional love, and remain rooted in Him no matter the pressure or rejection they encounter. ☆Pick up a copy of my latest book: Knowing God’s Voice ☆Go Deeper and Learn to Hear God’s Voice: Knowing Jesus Course ☆Get Ad-Free Episodes, Bonus Content, and more here: ⁠ patreon.com/HearingJesus⁠ ☆To Learn More About Sponsoring a Child, check out Compassion International here:➤ Sponsor a Child ☆Go on a trip with Rachael: Bible Study Live ☆Have a question for Rachael? Ask it here: Ask Rachael a Question ☆If you would like to give to Hearing Jesus and financially support the podcast, you can do so here ! ➤ Give Here ☆Facebook ➤https://www.facebook.com/SheHears.org/ ☆Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/rachael.d.groll/ ☆Website ➤ Hearing Jesus Takeaways Online hate can be disheartening for Christian creators. Jesus warned that the world would hate His followers. Agape love is selfless and sacrificial, as demonstrated by Jesus. Cultural expectations can conflict with God's truth. The Holy Spirit supports and guides us in our mission. Joy can coexist with persecution and challenges. Obedience to God brings true freedom and joy. Love is a deliberate choice, not just a feeling. We are called to love those who oppose us. Abiding in Christ is essential for strength and peace. Chapters 00:00 Facing Online Hate as a Christian Creator 02:55 Understanding Jesus' Teachings on Love and Hate 05:56 The Cost of Following Jesus 09:02 The Role of the Holy Spirit in Our Lives 11:55 Joy Amidst Persecution 15:01 Abiding in Christ Through Challenges Bible, Bible Study, Devotions, Devotional, Daily Devotional, Prayer, Jesus, God, Holy Spirit, Spiritual Growth, hearing God’s voice, Hearing God, Hearing Jesus, Praying, Pray, God’s Word, Scriptures Hearing Jesus, Knowing God's Voice, Female Prophets, Bible Study, Spiritual Growth, Christian Podcast, Faith Journey, Obedience, God's Communication, Personal Reflections, prophecy, faith, surrender, spiritual gifts, women's ministry, Christian podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    23 mins
  • Tuesday- Rooted in God’s Love: Daily Affirmations, Christian Affirmations, Biblical Affirmations, Affirmations

    Tuesday- Rooted in God’s Love: Daily Affirmations, Christian Affirmations, Biblical Affirmations, Affirmations
    Dec 23 2025
    Tuesday- Rooted in God’s Love: Daily Affirmations, Christian Affirmations, Biblical Affirmations, Affirmations This Tuesday episode offers powerful, Scripture-based affirmations to help you step into your week with boldness, peace, and purpose. As the world demands more, God invites you to rely on His strength. Through these promises, you’re reminded that you are never alone, never powerless, and never without purpose. AD-FREE Daily Affirmations can be found on my Patreon at: https://www.patreon.com/c/HearingJesus Today’s daily affirmations are for strength and confidence for the week ahead. Whatever this week holds, you are not facing it alone. God is with you—strengthening you, guiding you, and fighting for you. No matter what challenges you encounter, you can walk in faith knowing that God has already prepared the way for you. Affirmation: I am strong and courageous in Christ. Joshua 1:9 Affirmation: I do not fear because God is with me. Isaiah 41:10 Affirmation: I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13 Affirmation: I am victorious through Jesus. 1 Corinthians 15:57 Affirmation: I have the power of God working within me. Ephesians 3:20 Affirmation: I will not be shaken because God is my refuge. Psalm 62:6 Affirmation: I walk by faith, not by sight. 2 Corinthians 5:7 Affirmation: No weapon formed against me shall prosper. Isaiah 54:17 Affirmation: God fights my battles and I need only to be still. Exodus 14:14 Affirmation: I am not afraid because God has overcome the world. John 16:33 Affirmation: I have authority in Christ over every attack of the enemy. Luke 10:19 Affirmation: I am rooted and established in God’s love. Ephesians 3:17 Affirmation: I have divine wisdom and strength for today. James 1:5 Affirmation: I am resilient and I will persevere through trials. Romans 5:3-4 Affirmation: I am filled with the power of the Holy Spirit. Acts 1:8 Affirmation: I will not grow weary in doing good. Galatians 6:9 Affirmation: God’s grace is sufficient for me. 2 Corinthians 12:9 Affirmation: I have peace that surpasses understanding. Philippians 4:7 Affirmation: I am never alone. God is always near. Deuteronomy 31:8 Affirmation: I am protected under the shadow of the Almighty. Psalm 91:1 Affirmation: God’s Word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path. Psalm 119:105 Affirmation: I stand firm in faith and do not waver. James 1:6 Affirmation: I am free from fear because God’s perfect love casts it out. 1 John 4:18 Affirmation: I have a spirit of power, love, and sound mind. 2 Timothy 1:7 Affirmation: God is working all things for my good today. Romans 8:28 Closing Prayer Lord, I surrender my fear to You. Fill me with boldness, courage, and confidence in You. No matter what today holds, I trust in Your strength. In Jesus’ name, Amen. Listen daily and start your morning with God’s truth so you can walk in faith, clarity, and confidence. #ChristianPodcast #DailyAffirmations #FaithOverFear #BiblicalTruth #MorningDevotions #RenewYourMind #HearingJesusPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    9 mins
  • How Pruning Seasons Prepare Us: John 15:1-11 : Daily Devotional, Daily Bible Study

    How Pruning Seasons Prepare Us: John 15:1-11 : Daily Devotional, Daily Bible Study
    Dec 22 2025
    How Pruning Seasons Prepare Us: John 15:1-11 : Daily Devotional, Daily Bible Study In this episode of the Hearing Jesus podcast, Rachael Groll teaches on the metaphor of pruning in John 15, exploring how spiritual growth requires abiding in Christ. She shares personal experiences with grapevine pruning to illustrate how God carefully shapes, refines, and removes what hinders our growth. Rachael emphasizes the relational nature of spiritual life, showing how remaining connected to Jesus produces lasting fruit, joy, and transformation. Listeners are encouraged to trust God’s pruning process, allowing Him to refine their hearts and lives for deeper growth, greater fruitfulness, and a closer walk with Him. ☆Pick up a copy of my latest book: Knowing God’s Voice ☆Go Deeper and Learn to Hear God’s Voice: Knowing Jesus Course ☆Get Ad-Free Episodes, Bonus Content, and more here: ⁠ patreon.com/HearingJesus⁠ ☆To Learn More About Sponsoring a Child, check out Compassion International here: ➤ Sponsor a Child ☆Go on a trip with Rachael: Bible Study Live ☆Have a question for Rachael? Ask it here: Ask Rachael a Question ☆If you would like to give to Hearing Jesus and financially support the podcast, you can do so here ! ➤ Give Here ☆Facebook ➤https://www.facebook.com/SheHears.org/ ☆Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/rachael.d.groll/ ☆Website ➤ Hearing Jesus Takeaways Pruning requires knowledge and intentionality, just like in gardening. The metaphor of the vine illustrates our connection to Christ. Spiritual fruit is the outcome of a life aligned with God. Abiding in Christ is a continuous, daily relationship. Pruning can feel uncomfortable but is ultimately for our good. Joy is a byproduct of our relationship with God, not circumstances. God's pruning prepares us for deeper fruitfulness. Each branch (individual) is distinct and capable of producing fruit. Our prayers reflect our alignment with God's will when we abide in Him. The process of sanctification is lifelong and involves ongoing growth. Chapters 00:00 The Journey of Pruning and Growth 02:24 Understanding the Vine Metaphor 10:16 The Importance of Abiding in Christ 15:56 Joy and Connection in Spiritual Life 18:20 The Call to Allow Pruning for Fruitfulness Bible, Bible Study, Devotions, Devotional, Daily Devotional, Prayer, Jesus, God, Holy Spirit, Spiritual Growth, hearing God’s voice, Hearing God, Hearing Jesus, Praying, Pray, God’s Word, Scriptures Hearing Jesus, Knowing God's Voice, Female Prophets, Bible Study, Spiritual Growth, Christian Podcast, Faith Journey, Obedience, God's Communication, Personal Reflections, prophecy, faith, surrender, spiritual gifts, women's ministry, Christian podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    25 mins