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HOP Into Action Podcast Series

HOP Into Action Podcast Series

By: Brent Sutton
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HOP Into Action is a podcast of the broadcast that can be heard on Safety FM. The show is an ongoing discussion about building a better community of practice for people and organizations who want to improve safety, quality and operational excellence using HOP, Learning Teams, 4Ds and other learning framework. The host of the podcast, Brent Sutton, explores through conversation, diversity of thought and reflection the organizational challenges and learning opportunities that can be identified and improved on by using HOP and Learning Teams for Normal Everyday Work, Management of Change to create betterwork. For those of you in safety, it is about moving from preventative safety to productive safety and creating sustainable practice and improvement in operstions.

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Episodes
  • How to Uncover Hidden Trade-Offs in High-Risk Work

    How to Uncover Hidden Trade-Offs in High-Risk Work
    Nov 15 2025

    Welcome to Season 6 and the 131st episode of the podcast show HOP Into Action.

    In this episode of HOP Into Action, Brent Sutton explores the ETTO principle from Erik Hollnagel and how the tradeoffs we make at work and at home are normal and how HOP and the 4Ds can help us to operational learn and improve our systems to reduce the presence of tradeoffs in high risk work activities.
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    16 mins
  • Rules and Imagine verus Rules as Done

    Rules and Imagine verus Rules as Done
    Nov 2 2025

    Welcome to Season 6 and the 130th episode of the podcast show HOP Into Action.

    In this episode of HOP Into Action, Brent Sutton reframes safety rules from “controlling people” to supporting work. We trace the history of rules from factory-era prohibitions, Taylorist scripts, and audit checklists to today’s HOP mindset, and then show how to make rules useful at the job.
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    14 mins
  • Learning Teams versus RCA - Insights from Healthcare

    Learning Teams versus RCA - Insights from Healthcare
    Oct 18 2025

    Welcome to Season 6 and the 129th episode of the podcast show HOP Into Action.

    Today, I reflect on a research article from the Journal of Patient Safety detailing an evaluation of different incident investigation methods within a large United Kingdom National Health Service (NHS) hospital. The study compares the outcomes of Learning Teams with the traditional Root Cause Analysis (RCA) approach for adverse healthcare events. The authors found that Learning Teams generated significantly more actions and a higher percentage of system-focused actions, which are considered more effective compared to RCA. Furthermore, qualitative interviews revealed that Learning Teams foster a more open and less blame-focused culture and involve a wider range of staff than RCA, leading to more robust, system-level solutions for preventing future incidents.
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    13 mins
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