In this new episode, host Joe Testouri sits down with Neil Katz, a seasoned fractional HR leader with decades of wisdom, patience, and perspective under his belt.

Neil opens up about the pivotal moments that led him to choose slowing down as a conscious business strategy—revealing how intentional pauses, thoughtful decisions, and long-term thinking became his unfair advantage in a fast-paced world. From his corporate climb to his transition into fractional leadership, Neil shares why scaling up isn’t always about speed, and how real growth happens when you zoom out and play the long game.

Whether you're a founder, HR leader, or simply someone reevaluating the pace of your professional journey, this conversation will give you both the mindset and practical insights to grow with clarity and intention.

EP Guest: Neil Katz
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilkatzhr/
Website: https://www.exceptionalhrsolutions.com/

In this new episode, Joe welcomes Eric Josovitz, the sharp-minded founder of AdaptCFO — a strategic accounting firm built specifically for fast-growing small and mid-sized businesses.

Eric doesn’t just balance books — he helps founders reclaim sanity. In this conversation, we unpack how burnout, operational bloat, and financial blind spots silently sabotage even the most passionate entrepreneurs.

Eric shares:1. Why traditional accounting fails scaling companies
2. The real cost of not having strategic financial leadership
3.How founders can spot early warning signs of financial misalignment
4. Why clarity is the most underrated tool in business growth

Whether you're drowning in decisions or running lean but feeling lost — this episode is a powerful reminder that numbers don’t lie... but they need to be interpreted by the right people.

If you're a founder, CEO, or operator juggling growth and stress, this is your call to pause and re-strategize.

EP Guest: Eric Josovitz
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/josovitz
Website: http://www.adaptcfo.com

In Episode 72 of the Grappling Growth podcast, host Joe Testouri sits down with Zach Nunn, the dynamic Founder & CEO of Building XM Solutions, for a raw and deeply reflective conversation.

Zach doesn’t just talk business—he talks legacy. Drawing from personal moments and bold questions like “What if you die at 40?”, Zach shares why building with urgency and empathy isn't just a strategy—it's a responsibility. From creating impact-driven solutions to making work better for real people, Zach unpacks what it means to be intentional with your time, energy, and leadership.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking purpose beyond profit, and wanting to create work that lasts longer than they do.

Tune in to be challenged, inspired, and equipped to lead with heart.

EP Guest: Zachary Nunn
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/zacharynunnphr
Website: http://www.living-corporate.com
Living Corporate Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2mRmf9FpyH8GfhRNSQ1ZV9