Grand Canyon Criminal Defense

By: David Lish & Ryan McPhie
  • Summary

  • Welcome to the official podcast of Grand Canyon Law Group—Arizona’s premier dedicated criminal defense firm. Hosted by founding attorneys David Lish and Ryan McPhie, this show goes beyond the courtroom.

    Each episode explores real criminal cases, legal outcomes, and the stories behind the charges—from DUI to domestic violence, assault to white collar crimes. As former prosecutors turned fierce defense attorneys, David and Ryan bring unmatched insight, candid conversation, and a touch of grit.

    But it's not all law and order—we’ll also share hidden gems across Arizona, local legends, interviews with community voices, and the secret spots we love when we're off the clock.

    Whether you're navigating the justice system, curious about the truth behind high-stakes cases, or just want to hear two Arizona attorneys shoot straight—this podcast has you covered.

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Episodes
  • Trigger Point: Self Defense or Murder - The Harold Fish Story
    May 7 2025

    The Harold Fish Case – A Fatal Hike in Arizona

    In this gripping episode, we dive into one of Arizona’s most controversial self-defense cases: the 2004 shooting of Grant Kuenzli by retired schoolteacher Harold Fish.

    What started as a peaceful solo hike in the Coconino National Forest turned deadly within minutes. Fish claimed he was forced to fire in self-defense after being charged by Kuenzli, who had aggressively confronted him—following a dispute over two unleashed dogs.

    Fish was convicted of second-degree murder in 2006 and sentenced to a decade in prison. But years later, that conviction was overturned. What changed? And what does this case tell us about the justice system, gun rights, and the ever-blurry line between self-defense and excessive force?

    In this episode, we explore:

    • The facts and timeline of the shooting
    • The prosecution's theory vs. the defense's strategy
    • The role of Kuenzli’s dogs—and their impact on the case
    • The trial, conviction, and the appeal that reversed it all
    • How this case helped reshape self-defense laws in Arizona

    Was this truly a justified shooting? Or a deadly overreaction?

    Tune in as we unpack the legal, moral, and societal implications of the Harold Fish case—and why it still sparks debate two decades later.

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    48 mins
  • The Sleepwalking Killer: Inside the Mind of Scott Falater
    Apr 21 2025

    Would you believe someone could stab their spouse, drag them into a pool, and claim they were asleep the entire time?

    In this episode, we unpack one of Arizona’s most bizarre and controversial murder cases: the trial of Scott Falater, also known as The Sleepwalking Killer.

    Join Grand Canyon Law Group owners and seasoned defense attorneys Ryan McPhie and David Lish as they break down:

    • The shocking facts of the case and the eye-witness testimony
    • The defense’s argument of automatism and sleepwalking
    • Why Falater’s legal team argued the trial was unfair
    • The deeper ethical questions this case raises for defense attorneys

    This isn't your average true crime podcast. We're digging into the courtroom strategy, jury dynamics, and legal principles that shaped the outcome — and whether justice was really served.

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    59 mins
  • Grand Canyon Law Group - Trailer
    Apr 16 2025

    Welcome to the Grand Canyon Law Group Podcast

    This is just the beginning! We’re excited to launch our official podcast, where we’ll dig into real cases, legal strategies, and the stories behind Arizona’s criminal justice system.

    This teaser is just a preview—our first full episode drops Monday, April 21, 2025, at 8:00 AM.

    Subscribe now so you don’t miss it!

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    Less than 1 minute

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