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Hannah Foxwell - Independent Consultant & Founder of "AI for the rest of us"
Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant

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DESCRIPTION
Charles Humble and Hannah Foxwell explore the multifaceted challenges and opportunities presented by emerging technologies, modern work practices, and management dynamics.

They emphasize the importance of methodologies like pair programming, flexible work designs, and inclusive team environments, especially for accommodating neurodiverse and introverted individuals.
Foxwell introduces the “three-teams model” to guide new managers in aligning with direct reports, leadership peers, and cross-functional collaborators. She underscores the significance of equitable leadership through mentorship, coaching, and sponsorship, particularly for underrepresented groups.

Exploring AI’s potential, Foxwell highlights its transformative impact on software development and enterprise processes while cautioning against rushed adoption. She advocates for thoughtful experimentation and user-centric design, noting the need for cultural and structural shifts to fully realize AI’s benefits. Ultimately, the conversation centers on intentionality, empathy, and the need for organizations to balance innovation with human-centric practices. [...]

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Barbara Oakley • A Mind For Numbers
Pooja K. Agarwal & Patrice M. Bain • Powerful Teaching
Barbara Oakley & Olav Schewe • Learn Like a Pro
Daniel Kahneman • Thinking, Fast and Slow
Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topolog

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Andrew Harmel-Law - Technical Principal at Thoughtworks & Author of "Facilitating Software Architecture"
Sonya Natanzon - Senior Director of Software Engineering at Guardant Health

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Links
https://facilitatingsoftwarearchitecture.com
https://martinfowler.com/articles
https://www.thoughtworks.com/radar/techniques
https://www.cognitect.com/blog/2011/11/15
https://medium.com/@vanessamformicola

DESCRIPTION
Sonya Natanzon and Andrew Harmel-Law explore key concepts from Andrew’s book, fostering decentralized sociotechnical systems, emphasizing the importance of embracing imperfection in decision-making, and combating cognitive biases like the framing effect.

They highlight the shift to prioritizing learning, adaptability, and small, fast iterations in socio-technical systems. Andrew discusses psychological safety as vital for empowering teams to innovate while maintaining accountability, advocating for experimentation and collective ownership of evolving codebases. Together, they underline the importance of balancing creativity and structure to build resilient, adaptive systems that thrive in complexity.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Andrew Harmel-Law • Facilitating Software Architecture
Diana Montalion • Learning Systems Thinking
Donald G. Reinertsen • The Principles of Product Development Flow
Alexander, Ishikawa, Silverstein, Jacobson, Fiksdahl-King & Ange • A Pattern Language
Patty McCord • Powerful
Shoshana Zuboff • The Age of Surveillance Capitalism
Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Tea

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Tudor Girba - Software Environmentalist and CEO of feenk
Julian Wood - Serverless Developer Advocate at AWS

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DESCRIPTION
Get a sneak peak into the concept of moldable development as a transformative approach through a discussion between Tudor Girba and Julian Wood. By emphasizing the creation of tailored, flexible tools, Girba presents a way to reduce the friction of working with complex systems and legacy code. He explores how contextualized tools, such as those provided by the Glamorous Toolkit, allow developers to engage with software environments in a more intuitive and efficient manner.

The integration of generative AI is also examined, where Girba argues that AI's true potential lies not in providing definitive answers but in assisting developers by generating hypotheses and creating tools that support deeper engagement with code. Additionally, the concept of "habitability" is introduced, proposing that software systems, like physical spaces, should be navigable and comprehensible to developers, fostering a more productive and enjoyable experience.

This vision of a future where software systems are more accessible and adaptable reflects the growing need to rethink how we interact with code, empowering developers with the tools and perspectives necessary to navigate increasingly complex digital landscapes.

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Richard P. Gabriel • Patterns of Software
Susanne Kaiser • Adaptive Systems With Domain-Driven Design, Wardley Mapping, and Team Topologies
Eric Evans • Domain-Driven Design
Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies
Heidi Helfand • Dynamic Reteaming
Vlad Khononov • Learning Domain-Driven Design
Erik Schön • The Art of Strategy
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Evelyn van Kelle - Behavioral Change Consultant at Xebia
Gien Verschatse - Senior Consultant at Aardling
Kenny Baas-Schwegler - Collaborative Modeling Facilitator at Weave IT
Xin Yao - Independent Consultant Contextualizing DDD & Sociotechnical Architecture

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Gien
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https://www.gienverschatse.com

Kenny
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https://weave-it.org

Xin
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https://bsky.app/profile/settling-mud.bsky.social

Links
https://collaborative-software-design.com
https://bsky.app/profile/collaborative-software-design.com

DESCRIPTION
In a spirited discussion on collaborative modeling and decision-making, the the authors of “Collaborative Software Design: How to Facilitate Domain Modeling Decisions”—Evelyn vVan Kelle, Gien Verschatse, and Kenny Baas-Schwegler—explored the power of inclusive decision-making, shared understanding, and how to navigate social dynamics like bias, ranking and conflict in teams together with Xin Yao.

They highlighted the importance of facilitating not just through structured methods, but by empowering everyone in the team to contribute and lead decisions. Drawing from their experiences, they shared insights into the process of making better decisions through collaboration, the impact of "Deep Democracy", and the value of being able to step back and allow teams to thrive independently. Their conversation also touched on resources like Thinking, Fast and Slow, Jam Cultures, and Sitting in the Fire—tools to help teams make smarter decisions and grow together.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
van Kelle, Verschatse &Baas-Schwegler • Collaborative Software Design
Jitske Kramer • Jam Cultures
Danielle Braun & Jitske Kramer • The Corporate Tribe
Arnold Mindell • Sitting in the Fire
Daniel Kahneman • Thinking, Fast and Slow
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Prof. Dr. Barbara Oakley - Professor of Engineering at Oakland University & Author of Numerous Books
Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant

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Charles
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DESCRIPTION
Barbara Oakley, renowned author and polymath joins Charles Humble for a deep dive into the brain's modes of operation, exploring the focused and diffuse modes of thinking, which together enhance learning by balancing task-oriented problem-solving with creativity.

They emphasize the importance of mental relaxation and the role of exercise, sleep, and a healthy diet in boosting cognitive function. Key concepts such as deliberate practice, retrieval practice, and the value of psychological safety in team dynamics are explored, offering insights into effective learning and collaboration. The relationship between working memory and long-term memory is examined, highlighting how techniques like the Pomodoro Technique and spaced repetition optimize retention. Additionally, the conversation underscores the potential of AI in education, encouraging its integration despite concerns among educators.

Lastly, the phenomenon of rustiness in skill retention is explained through the dynamics of neural connections, with a hopeful outlook on the future of neuroscience research in understanding conditions like autism and dyslexia.

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Barbara Oakley • A Mind For Numbers
Pooja K. Agarwal & Patrice M. Bain • Powerful Teaching
Barbara Oakley & Olav Schewe • Learn Like a Pro
Barbara Oakley, Beth Rogowsky & Terrence J. Sejnowski • Uncommon Sense Teaching
Barbara Oakley & Terrence J. Sejnowski • Learning How to Learn
Barbara Oakley • Mindshift
Heidi Helfand • Dynamic Reteaming
Daniel Kahneman • Thinking, Fast and Slow
Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies

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Diana Montalion - Systems Architect, Mentrix Founder & Author of "Learning Systems Thinking"
Kris Jenkins - Developer Advocate, Software Developer, Podcast Host, Conference Speaker & Geek

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https://learningsystemsthinking.com

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http://blog.jenkster.com

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Diana Montalion • Learning Systems Thinking
Andrew Harmel-Law • Facilitating Software Architecture
Donella H. Meadows • Thinking in Systems
Donella H. Meadows • Limits to Growth
Robert M. Pirsig • Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

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Susanne Kaiser - Independent Tech Consultant & Author of "Architecture for Flow"
Michaela Greiler - Code Reviews Expert, Trainer & Consultant
Adele Carpenter - Software Engineer at Trifork
Daniel Terhorst-North - Originator of Behavior Driven Development (BDD) & Principal at Dan North & Associates
Simon Wardley - Thought Lord, Mapper, Mostly Good

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Michaela
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Adele
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Daniel
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Simon
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http://blog.gardeviance.org

DESCRIPTION
Explore the rich tapestry of what it truly means to support developers.

The conversation took a forward-looking turn as they examined the role of AI, not as a looming replacement, but as a powerful ally that enhances human creativity, much like past innovations that revolutionized workflows. They showcased how intuitive design—exemplified by tools like IntelliJ—can make a developer’s experience seamless and enjoyable.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Susanne Kaiser • Adaptive Systems With Domain-Driven Design, Wardley Mapping & Team Topologies
Simon Wardley • Wardley Maps
Simon Wardley • Wardley Mapping, The Knowledge
Matthew Casperson • DevEx as a Service
Christian Clausen • Five Lines of Code
David Anderson, Marck McCann & Michael O'Reilly • T

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Ajay Chankramath - CTO at Brillio & Co-Author of "Effective Platform Engineering"
Nic Cheneweth - Principal Consultant at Thoughtworks & Co-Author of "Effective Platform Engineering"
Bryan Oliver - Principal at Thoughtworks & Co-Author of "Effective Platform Engineering"
Sean Alvarez - CTO of Life Sciences Business at Brillio & Co-Author of "Effective Platform Engineering"
Wesley Reisz - Technical Principal at Equal Experts

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Nic
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Bryan
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Sean
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Wes
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Links
https://www.gartner.com/en/experts/top-tech-trends-unpacked-series/platform-engineering-empowers-developers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain-driven_design
https://www.openpolicyagent.org

DESCRIPTION
The authors of Effective Platform Engineering—Ajay Chankramath, Sean Alvarez, Nic Cheneweth & Bryan Oliver—discuss the transformative role of platform engineering in software delivery. They highlight how platform engineering streamlines operations, enhances developer experience, and drives innovation through self-service tools

Key topics include evolutionary architecture, treating platforms as lifecycle-managed products, and using generative AI to optimize infrastructure. They also cover practical strategies for launching platform initiatives, focusing on organizational self-awareness, API boundaries, and balancing compliance with productivity. The authors aim to provide actionable insights for building adaptable platforms that drive business agility and long-term value.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Chankramath, Cheneweth, Oliver & Alvarez • Effective Platform Engineering
Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy
Kate Stanley & Mickael Maison • Kafka Connect
Adrienne Braganza Tacke • "Looks Good to Me": Constructive Code Reviews
Martin Fowler • Refac

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