What if the fastest way to modernise HR isn’t ripping out systems or buying another mega-platform but connecting what you already have in a smarter way?

In this episode of the HRchat Podcast, Bill Banham sits down with James Davies, CEO of Kinetic Data, to explore how an agility layer can transform fragmented HR and enterprise processes into simple, human-centred workflows employees actually use.

James shares his journey from help desk technician to leading a platform trusted by the U.S. Department of Defense and Fortune 2000 organisations. Along the way, he explains why so many HR and digital transformation programmes stall in “upgrade purgatory”—and how starting with user experience, not technology, creates faster change, safer upgrades, and better adoption.

We explore how orchestration across HRIS, ITSM, ERP, and identity systems enables a single front door for employee requests—everything from access and time off to kudos and performance reviews—without adding platform bloat.

The conversation also dives into compliance in highly regulated environments. James explains how reading policy (instead of blindly following tradition) unlocks digitisation without weakening controls, enabling smarter renewals, integrated training records, and smoother first-day experiences.

Inside Kinetic Data, James outlines a four-pillar operating model—Growth, Product, Success, and Operations—and reflects on servant leadership, empathy built through doing the work, and how intentional culture has kept employee turnover close to zero.

If you’re wrestling with complex systems, slow upgrades, or HR processes that push employees back to manual work, this episode offers a practical blueprint for reducing friction, freeing up budget for innovation, and building durable software that works under pressure—with a memorable Toyota Land Cruiser analogy along the way.

Key topics include:

• Help desk roots and a service-first mindset
• Why modernisation is about coordination, not more tools
• The agility layer across HRIS, ITSM, ERP, and identity
• Designing employee experience before system architecture
• Compliance lessons from DoD and federal environments
• Reducing maintenance to fund innovation
• Servant leadership, introversion, and near-zero turnover
• Building “Land Cruiser” software that just works

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