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Form & Structure

Form & Structure

By: Patrick Murck Founder & CEO of Surus
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Hosted by Patrick Murck, Founder and CEO of Surus, this series explores the intersection of policy, technology, and financial innovation. Form & Structure is presented by Surus, an institutional-grade, regulated asset management and custody platform that will enable builders and investors to engage in the on-chain economy.2024 Economics
Episodes
  • How AI and RegTech Are Transforming Financial Regulation with Jo Ann Barefoot
    Jan 29 2026

    Financial regulation is failing to keep pace with innovation and the results are catastrophic. The UN estimates that less than 1% of financial crime gets caught globally, despite banks spending tens of billions annually on AML compliance. In this episode, Surus CEO Patrick Murck sits down with Jo Ann Barefoot, former Deputy Comptroller of the Currency and CEO of the Alliance for Innovative Regulation, to explore why outdated regulatory technology is the bottleneck preventing both effective crime detection and financial innovation.

    Featuring Jo Ann Barefoot's decades of experience helping regulators adapt to technological change, from FinTech waves to crypto to AI transformation.

    Relevant for: Crypto builders, DeFi teams, compliance professionals, RegTech innovators, stablecoin issuers, tokenized asset platforms, financial services leaders, policy experts.

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    39 mins
  • Regulate Who Controls the Money, Not 'Decentralization'
    Dec 3 2025

    U.S. policymakers continue to wrestle with how to regulate decentralized finance, stablecoins, and the broader crypto ecosystem. But as our guests Rebecca Rettig and Mike Mosier argue, the central challenge has never been "decentralization." Instead, the real regulatory question is who has independent control over other people's value.

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    43 mins
  • Don't F** It Up: Why Congress Has One Shot at Crypto Market Structure
    Nov 10 2025

    In this monthly policy roundtable, Patrick Murck is joined by Greg Xethalis (General Counsel, Multicoin Capital) and Karen Ubell (Partner, Goodwin) to break down the urgent push for crypto market structure legislation before midterms. They discuss Mike Selig's nomination to chair the CFTC and what his crypto expertise means for the agency's expansion into spot markets. They examine whether Congress should rush legislation or take time to get it right, what the Binance listing terms leak reveals about US regulatory arbitrage, and why moving from 54 state licenses to federal oversight matters for competitiveness.

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    46 mins
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