Glenna Gerard has been involved in education, business, and consulting for over 30 years, much of that as a practitioner, facilitator, and teacher of “Bohm Dialogue,” a method for creating shared understanding, and even shared meaning, developed by the Nobel Prize-winning quantum physicist, David Bohm. Glenna joins these Fools for a far-ranging conversation that touches on many topics, including her experience working with David Bohm, Dialogue and its role in organizations and institutions, the nature of concepts such as emergence, fragmentation and coherence, the unique role of language as a framework for reality, and of course consciousness itself, and meaning. It was truly a joy to host Glenna and we know you will enjoy this very special episode. Thanks for tuning in!

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Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Glenna Gerard

05:24 The Importance of Dialogue

08:48 David Bohm's Influence on Dialogue

16:10 Understanding Fragmentation and Wholeness

19:57 The Role of Language in Dialogue

26:05 The Interconnectedness of Human Experience

32:21 Exploring Bohm Dialogue in Depth

38:14 Creating a Container for Meaningful Conversations

43:58 Letting Go of Outcomes

48:29 Transmission of Wisdom in Dialogue

54:46 Navigating Conflict as a Resource

01:04:35 Facilitating Self-Sustaining Dialogue

01:10:58 Power Dynamics in Work Environments

01:14:04 Leadership and Organizational Change

01:24:05 Dialogue as a Way of Being

01:27:21 New Dialogic Practices

It seems we see the world through a somewhat warped perspective. Where everything is interconnected, we see individual elements. As a result, human beings can uniquely manipulate the physical world, which helps us evolutionarily. But, just like quantum physics applies different rules than Newtonian mechanics, we need a different way of seeing reality if we want to apprehend its wholeness, rather than its parts. These Fools touch on Iain McGilchrist’s work, “Master and Emissary,” along with Henri Bergson’s analysis of evolution and the hierarchy of matter and consciousness, and explore the possible means and implications of experiencing wholeness. Enjoy!

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The sentencing of Brian Kohberger in the infamous University of Idaho murders triggers a discussion of justice. What is justice, even? How have our concepts of it evolved? How can justice be achieved? What is the relationship between justice and morality, and does serving justice require the commitment of immoral acts? What is the relationship between justice and “social justice?” How are justice and civic responsibility intertwined? And, as always, so much more.

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