Flock Logic & Leaderful Teams | Step Up, Step Back, Step Together
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Flock Logic & Leaderful Teams | Step Up, Step Back, Step Together
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In this episode of the Engaged By Design Podcast, we welcome back Kathy Hagler and Robin Graham, co-authors of The ABCs of Murmuration.
Together, we explore Flock Logic—a powerful nature-inspired framework drawn from the mesmerizing behavior of starlings—and how it applies to leadership, teamwork, and learning organizations.
You’ll discover:
- Why high-functioning groups don’t need a single leader to move together
- The three natural principles behind murmuration: alignment, separation, and cohesion
- How those principles translate into human leadership behaviors: step up, step back, and step together
- Why trust, awareness, and connection matter more than control
- Simple practices leaders and educators can use immediately to create rhythm, flow, and shared responsibility
If you’re navigating uncertainty, change, or collaboration fatigue, this conversation offers a hopeful and practical path forward—one grounded in nature, humanity, and collective wisdom.
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