Episodes

  • Episode 340 - God Said "Pastor the Nation" And He Listened | President Chakwera
    Aug 19 2025
    From Pastor to President: Transforming Africa Through Faith-Driven Investment

    Join host Justin Forman from a stunning lakeside location in Malawi as he sits down with President Lazarus Chakwera, one of the rare world leaders who transitioned from pastoral ministry to the presidency. In this remarkable conversation, President Chakwera shares his extraordinary journey from leading the Assemblies of God for over 30 years to answering God's call to "pastor the nation."

    This episode explores the critical shift happening across Africa—from aid dependence to investment partnerships—and reveals why Malawi's vision for becoming an "inclusively wealthy, self-reliant economy" represents a blueprint for continental transformation. President Chakwera offers profound insights on how faith-driven investors can partner with African nations to create lasting impact while maintaining dignity and mutual respect.

    Key Topics:
    • The miraculous journey from 30+ years of pastoral ministry to the presidency
    • Why Africa is shifting from aid to investment—and why this matters globally
    • Malawi's ATM strategy: Agriculture, Tourism, and Mining as pathways to prosperity
    • How faith-driven investors can avoid exploitation and build trust-based partnerships
    • The power of synergy: When pastors, entrepreneurs, and government leaders unite
    Notable Quotes:

    "I didn't leave ministry. This is ministry." - President Chakwera

    "You cannot reap without sowing... we can prosper together, just like God can prosper everyone without him running out of stuff." - President Chakwera

    "Investing for me is using what God has given me in order that I might be a blessing to other people." - President Chakwera

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    39 mins
  • Episode 339 - Why the Military & Your Barber Are More Trusted Than Institutions | Andy Crouch
    Aug 12 2025
    Navigating Pandemonium: How Faith-Driven Entrepreneurs Can Rebuild Trust in a Broken World

    Join host Justin Forman for a compelling conversation with Andy Crouch, bestselling author and senior fellow at Praxis, about the cultural moment we find ourselves in—one he describes as "pandemonium." In this thought-provoking episode, Andy unpacks why institutional trust has collapsed, what it means for entrepreneurs, and how the church's calling to serve offers a pathway forward.

    Drawing from his deep understanding of cultural dynamics and three-generation rebuilding cycles, Andy reveals why small businesses and the military are the only institutions maintaining trust above 50%—and what that means for Kingdom-minded entrepreneurs navigating uncertain times.

    Key Topics:
    • Why our current moment is best described as "pandemonium" rather than chaos
    • The collapse of prestige hierarchies and rise of dominance-based leadership
    • How COVID accelerated institutional trust erosion that was decades in the making
    • The three-generation cycle of cultural rebuilding (lessons from Genesis)
    • Why small businesses maintain high trust levels while other institutions fail
    • Jesus's radical alternative to both dominance and prestige hierarchies
    • Practical strategies for lean, mission-focused entrepreneurship in uncertain times
    Notable Quotes:

    "Institutionalism is when the actual mission of the institution becomes less important than just protecting the institution itself. You go off mission, and your mission becomes just protect our thing." - Andy Crouch

    "In the kingdom of God, anyone can be great because anyone can serve." - Andy Crouch (quoting Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.)

    "If you aim for community, sometimes you get community, but rarely do, but if you aim for mission, oftentimes community is just a natural byproduct, and you're probably gonna get mission too." - Justin Forman

    Andy Crouch is a bestselling author, cultural commentator, and senior fellow at Praxis. His books include "Culture Making," "Strong and Weak," and "The Tech-Wise Family." He brings decades of experience analyzing cultural shifts and helping leaders navigate complex societal changes with wisdom and faith.

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    45 mins
  • Episode 338 - Why Most "Faith-Driven" Businesses Fail the Authenticity Test | Dave Blanchard
    Aug 5 2025

    Join host Justin Forman for a crucial conversation with Dave Blanchard, CEO of Praxis, as they pause to reflect on where the faith-driven entrepreneurship movement stands today. In a year marked by uncertainty and rapid change, Dave shares insights from Praxis's annual letter, exploring how entrepreneurs can navigate challenges while staying true to their calling.

    This episode dives deep into the "moral ecology" that defines authentic faith-driven entrepreneurship - moving beyond buzzwords to examine what it truly means to build redemptively in today's marketplace. From practicing what we preach to embracing meaningful risk, Dave and Justin unpack the essential code that separates genuine Kingdom builders from those merely using faith as a marketing tool.

    Key Topics:
    • The moral ecology of faith-driven entrepreneurship: 8 core principles
    • Why "practicing what you preach" is the foundation of authentic leadership
    • The three types of risk every entrepreneur must consider: money, comfort, and reputation
    • How to maintain Kingdom identity while building in the marketplace
    • The difference between driven leaders and called leaders
    • Why people are eternal and projects are temporal
    • Navigating the shift from faith being risky to mention to potentially exploiting it
    • Building businesses that demonstrate redemptive practices, not just talk about them
    Notable Quotes:

    "People are eternal and projects are temporal. So how do we operationalize that?" - Dave Blanchard

    "Culture is not codified until someone loses their job because they violated it." - Dave Blanchard

    "There's a chance anytime the door opens up for us that we say, 'Oh, man, we felt exploited for so long by not being able to say this.'" - Dave Blanchard

    "When you find yourself exploding at a situation, something's gone haywire with your need for an outcome, your desire for control." - Dave Blanchard

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    39 mins
  • Episode 337 - Why Society Trusts Entrepreneurs 2X More Than Pastors | Mark Grunden
    Jul 29 2025
    When Church Meets Business: Unlocking the Power of Partnership

    Join host Justin Forman as he reunites with Mark Grunden, who brings a unique perspective from both the business world and pastoral ministry. Their unexpected connection at the DMZ in South Korea leads to a compelling conversation about why society trusts entrepreneurs twice as much as pastors—and how this presents an unprecedented opportunity for Kingdom impact.

    Drawing from groundbreaking research with Barna Group, this episode reveals how 70% of entrepreneurs believe that when churches and business leaders partner together, they can solve the world's greatest problems. Mark shares practical insights from his journey through missions, entrepreneurship, and ministry at Saddleback Church, offering a roadmap for churches ready to empower their entrepreneurial members.

    Key Topics:
    • Why society respects entrepreneurs 2x more than pastors (and why that's an opportunity, not a threat)
    • The faith and work movement goes mainstream: Insights from Lausanne 2024
    • How Saddleback Church pioneered faith and work ministry since the 1990s
    • Breaking the "parking jacket and coffee" ministry trap for high-capacity leaders
    • Why entrepreneurs are the natural first step for churches entering faith and work
    • Building sustainable church networks that empower business leaders
    • Practical tools: Foundation Groups and annual conferences that transform communities
    Notable Quotes:

    "Society at large, they respect entrepreneurs two times more than pastors of the community." - Mark Grunden

    "The way that we're gonna make a positive contribution or impact in the communities that our churches sit within, is really by empowering the entrepreneurs, business leaders of our communities and of our congregations to take that front row leadership voice." - Mark Grunden

    "Nearly seven out of 10 entrepreneurs believe that when the church and when business leaders and entrepreneurs kind of come together that man, there's a really good chance of solving some of the big problems of the world." - Justin Forman

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    45 mins
  • Episode 336 - Ex-Royalty Goes All-In on Africa’s $1 Trillion Underground Economy | Sadiq Edu
    Jul 22 2025

    Join host Justin Forman as he sits down with Sadiq Edu, co-founder of Pika, in Lagos, Nigeria, for an extraordinary conversation about faith transformation, entrepreneurial courage, and the power of data to lift nations. Sadiq shares his remarkable journey from being the grandson of a Sultan to encountering Christ through a series of miraculous events, including being baptized by the Archbishop of Canterbury.

    This episode explores how God works through business to address both spiritual and financial poverty, the challenges of building a fintech startup in Africa's informal economy, and the importance of staying true to your calling even when it costs everything.

    Key Topics:
    • The miraculous conversion story: From Islamic royalty to follower of Christ
    • Being baptized by the Archbishop of Canterbury after a divine appointment
    • Building Pika: Transforming Africa's $1 trillion informal retail sector through data
    • Why you can't address spiritual poverty without addressing financial poverty
    • The cost of faith: Navigating family rejection while honoring God and spouse
    • From Techstars rejection to acceptance: Trusting God's timing in business
    • How bookkeeping apps can unlock credit, insurance, and economic development for 40 million traders
    Notable Quotes:

    "You don't have the license to speak on someone's spiritual poverty until you've addressed their financial poverty." - Sadiq Edu

    "Entrepreneurship is pulling back all the noise to see what's true - whether in faith or business." - Justin Forman

    "If we lost everything tomorrow, doesn't matter. We know that the most important thing we have is Jesus." - Sadiq Edu

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    1 hr and 18 mins
  • Episode 335 - How Dude Perfect Built Trust with 100M+ Fans | Coby Cotton
    Jul 15 2025

    Join hosts Justin Forman and Dana Roefer as they go behind the scenes with Coby Cotton, one of the founders of Dude Perfect, to explore his journey from college basketball tricks to building one of the world's most trusted family entertainment brands reaching millions globally.

    This episode dives deep into recognizing and nurturing the entrepreneurial spirit in children, even when it shows up in unexpected ways. Through Coby's story and practical parenting insights, discover how to identify creative seeds in your kids and foster their God-given talents.

    Key Topics:
    • The Dude Perfect origin story: From backyard trick shots to global phenomenon
    • Recognizing entrepreneurial traits in "imaginative" (sometimes rule-breaking) kids
    • How to affirm creativity in frustrating parenting moments
    • The balance between faith and business in building a company
    • Why the creator economy is pulling entrepreneurship conversations earlier
    • Practical ways to nurture your child's unique wiring and gifts
    • The importance of early affirmation and creating safe spaces for failure
    Notable Quotes:

    "Entrepreneurship is a funny word. What was the word that was upstream of that? It's really just creativity." - Justin Forman

    "They start to show themselves really early on. And so as a parent, the hat that we're wearing is how do I see the ways that God has wired my kid? And then how do pull that out?" - Dana Roefer

    "I feel strongly that God has used Dude Perfect, which is a business for His glory in a way that if I had gone and done vocational Ministry, I don't think would have happened." - Coby Cotton

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    40 mins
  • Episode 334 - Tech CEO Moves Company to an Avoided Neighborhood | Chi-Ming & Juliette Chien
    Jul 8 2025

    In this powerful episode of the Faith Driven Entrepreneur podcast, hosts Justin Forman and Kevin Kim sit down with Chi-Ming and Juliette Chien to explore their radical decision to relocate their successful tech company from San Francisco's financial district to Bayview - a neighborhood where 25-30% of children live below the federal poverty line.

    Chi-Ming shares how Dayspring Technologies embodies "bearing witness to God's redeeming of the workplace, marketplace, and community" through unconventional business practices like refusing to use leverage in negotiations, maintaining only three months of cash reserves, and implementing a pay structure where CEO compensation is capped at 3x the lowest paid employee.

    Juliette reveals how their partnership with Redeemer Community Church led to the founding of RISE, a Christian high school where 80% of seats are reserved for first-generation college students from low-income families, with a mission of 100% four-year university admission.

    Key Highlights:
    • Why Dayspring moved from downtown San Francisco to Bayview, defying conventional business wisdom
    • The theological imagination that shapes radical business practices
    • How "prophetic emptiness" - leaving space for God to fill - birthed a transformative school
    • The power of church-business partnerships in community transformation
    • Practical examples of living out gospel economics in the marketplace
    • Why achievement and control can be more dangerous idols than money
    Quotable Moments:

    "I think a lot of times we call something impractical when it's largely left untried." - Juliette Chien

    "In order to love a place, you need to know it. In order to know it, you need to learn it, so you gotta spend time." - Chi-Ming Chien

    "If somebody takes your coat then give them your tunic also... That actually has implications for how we think about relating to our marketplace neighbors." - Chi-Ming Chien

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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Episode 333 - The Walmart Architect's Secret to Kingdom Currency | Raymond Harris
    Jun 24 2025

    In this profound episode of the Faith Driven Entrepreneur podcast, host Justin Forman sits down with Raymond Harris, a distinguished architect, executive producer, and venture capitalist who founded one of the largest architectural firms specializing in corporate architecture. Raymond shares his remarkable journey from questioning whether he missed his calling to building an 8,000-project portfolio with Walmart while revolutionizing his understanding of wealth, stewardship, and Kingdom impact.

    From giving away his entire wedding gift with only $600 in the bank to developing the concept of "Kingdom currency," Raymond's story challenges conventional thinking about success, generosity, and the true purpose of business.

    Key Highlights:
    • Raymond's journey from pre-med to architecture and his bold request to become a partner at age 27
    • Building a firm that completed 8,000 projects for Walmart over 37 years
    • The transformative realization: "I was really created not to be an architect, but to be a steward of his kingdom. Architecture was just the economic engine to do that."
    • Why practicing generosity early matters: "If you're not generous when you don't have anything, you're certainly not gonna be generous when you have a lot"
    • The concept of "Kingdom currency" - converting earthly assets into eternal impact
    • Innovative approaches to inheritance: giving to children when they need it most, not when they're in their 60s
    • The danger of achievement as an addiction and the importance of authentic brokenness
    • Why donor-advised funds can become "storage warehouses" if not deployed strategically
    Quotable Moments:

    "Did I miss the turn by not going into ministry? And I didn't want to. I wanted to be an architect... about 25 years after running a firm, the Lord said, no, you never missed the turn. You've always been on the right road. You've been trying to drive the car by looking in the mirror, look through the windshield."

    "Why does he entrust wealth to people? But he gave it to us. So that we could steward it into his kingdom to take care of those that can't take care of himself."

    "If we think that we can keep hold of earthly money and make more money on earth and then give away more money and that's really pleasing to God, I think he's more interested in us giving early so that he can compound what is really his money anyway."

    "I call it kingdom currency. What is kingdom currency? Kingdom currency in my thinking is wealth and assets on this earth that will transfer into the next kingdom, which is eternity."

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    54 mins