Join us for a powerful episode of the Face to Face Podcast as we sit down with Dr. Margaret Nagib, a clinical psychologist with over 20 years of experience, to explore the integration of faith, psychology, and nervous system healing. Discover how trauma responses shape our lives, why nervous system regulation is foundational for emotional and spiritual health, and practical steps for moving from survival to wholeness.

Timestamps:

00:00 – Welcome & Introduction
00:29 – Broadcasting from Lake Tahoe & Upcoming Courses
02:38 – Introducing Dr. Margaret Nagib
03:22 – Dr. Margaret’s Background: Integrating Faith & Psychology
05:42 – The Evolution of Christian Psychology & Inner Healing
09:35 – Mind, Body, Spirit Integration Explained
13:22 – The Role of the Nervous System in Healing
18:23 – Why Nervous System Work is Trending
21:14 – Understanding Trauma Responses: Fight, Flight, Freeze, Fawn
24:11 – Real-Life Examples: People-Pleasing & Fawn Response
27:00 – How to Recognize and Shift Out of Trauma Responses
31:00 – Practical Tools for Regulation & Completing the Stress Cycle
35:00 – Recognizing Long-Term Patterns & Building Capacity
39:00 – The Foundation of Nervous System Work

Key Topics:

• The integration of faith and psychology in healing
• How trauma responses (fight, flight, freeze, fawn) show up in daily life
• The importance of nervous system regulation for lasting change
• Practical tools for recognizing and shifting out of survival states
• Dr. Margaret’s personal journey and resources

Connect with Dr. Margaret Nagib:
Instagram: @margaretnagib
Website: thedunamisproject.org

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In this episode, we continue our conversation with Suhail Stephen, exploring how the Enneagram can deepen spiritual formation and self-understanding. We discuss the Enneagram’s origins, its nine personality types, and how it helps us recognize both our strengths and areas for growth.

Suhail shares personal insights and practical ways the Enneagram can foster compassion, freedom, and more authentic relationships—with God, others, and ourselves.

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00:00 - Welcome & Introduction
00:29 - Show Begins, Guest Introduction
00:55 - Announcements: Dash Away & Trauma Course
01:41 - Transition to Enneagram Topic
01:52 - Suhail on Spirituality & Enneagram
02:14 - Cathy’s Enneagram Story
02:58 - Suhail: Enneagram’s Impact & History
05:19 - Christian Perspective on Enneagram
08:00 - Suhail’s Personal Enneagram Experience
10:32 - Triads & Undercurrents Explained
13:37 - Cathy & Melinda Discuss Their Types
15:13 - Suhail: What the Numbers Mean
16:58 - Triads: Shame, Anxiety, Frustration
18:45 - Compulsions & Avoidances
19:41 - Melinda: Resistance to Labels
21:47 - Suhail: Why Use “Undercurrent” & “Compulsion”
23:28 - Melinda & Cathy’s Types Explored
24:39 - Cathy’s Leadership & Independence
27:50 - Why Self-Awareness Matters
29:03 - Enneagram for Relationships
31:56 - Final Thoughts & Resources
34:15 - Where to Find Suhail
34:58 - Enneagram: Affirming the Good
35:54 - Closing Remarks
36:07 - Outro & Call to Action
36:27 - End

In this episode of the Face to Face podcast, we engage in a profound conversation with Suhail Stephen, a spiritual director from Manitoba, Canada. We delve into Suhail's multicultural upbringing, his journey into spiritual direction, and the significance of the contemplative Christian tradition. We also discuss practical steps like the Daily Examen and the role of a spiritual director in deepening one's spiritual experience. Suhail shares his personal experiences and insights, making this episode a valuable resource for anyone interested in authentic spiritual growth and connection with God.

00:28 Exciting Announcements and Upcoming Events

01:50 Meet Our Special Guest: Suhail Stephen

06:30 Suhail's Journey and Cultural Experiences

12:54 Exploring Spirituality Across Cultures

22:45 The Path to Spiritual Direction

24:49 Understanding Spiritual Direction

26:02 Personal Journey with God

27:52 First Encounter with Spiritual Direction

28:52 Discovering the Call to Spiritual Direction

30:39 Training and Becoming a Spiritual Director

37:02 The Contemplative Tradition

46:40 Practical Steps for Spiritual Growth

50:22 Conclusion and Final Thoughts