A grain of salt and a pair of soft pants.

In this episode, Kristin and Loren break the fourth wall on career conversations and swap the usual interview format for a casual, candid advice session.

From figuring out what you actually want (versus what you’ve been conditioned to want), to recognizing the difference between burnout and boredom, they talk through the questions so many of us are quietly asking at work and in life. Along the way, they unpack urgency culture, eldest-child energy, pointless meetings, LinkedIn performance art, and the freedom of choosing soft pants over hard rules.

This is an advice episode to take with a grain of salt: thoughtful, nosy, occasionally petty, and rooted in autonomy, self-trust, and the belief that your job doesn’t have to be your passion to be good enough.

No professionals here, just two eldest children in their 40s, doing their best.

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Adaptation is a skill.

In this episode, Kristin sits down with her sister Kenzie (she/her) for a conversation about nonlinear careers, survival skills, and what it really means to “read the room.”

Kenzie’s path, from reality TV casting to corporate recruiting to a bold pivot toward law school, is a masterclass in adaptation. Together, they unpack how early chaos shapes professional instincts, how work inevitably collides with life, and why being “off track” is often exactly where growth happens.

This episode is about transferable skills born from resilience, the limits of changing systems from the inside, and remembering that behind every résumé, interview, and job title is a human trying to make it work.

How to get in touch:

• Instagram and TikTok: @kenziedgardner

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Do all the things, with purpose.

In this episode, Kristin sit down with longtime friend and multi-hyphenate creative Heidi (she/her)--marketer, DJ, podcaster, higher-ed storyteller, civic-tech comms pro, and now small-business founder--to explore the many twists and pivots of her career. From clerk-of-court cubicles to national civic tech work to launching her own consultancy, Heidi shares what she’s learned about work boundaries, risk-taking, pay cuts, unionization, and staying grounded through it all. It’s a conversation about reinvention, and creative renewal.

How to get in touch:

• heidikerr.com
• Heidi on LinkedIn
• @alsothatheidi

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