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Episode 5: Mary Ann

Episode 5: Mary Ann

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It's not that serious.

In this episode, Kristin talks with Mary Ann (she/her), a former ska-punk zine kid turned corporate law firm website manager, about what it really means to not dream of labor. They trace her path from AOL fan sites and popcorn shifts at the mall, through nonprofit burnout and film/TV detours, to a corporate web career that pays the bills without owning her identity. Mary Ann shares how books like Work Won’t Love You Back helped her de-center work, stop taking every email so personally, and build a life where quitting a bad job is an act of self-care. They also reminisce about early-internet nostalgia, hybrid work fashion, and the career armor that comes from remembering: we’re not saving lives here.

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