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Episode 2: Black Girl Magic or Black Girl Tragic?

Episode 2: Black Girl Magic or Black Girl Tragic?

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In this episode, we unpack what it really means for Black women to carry excellence everywhere—at work, at home, and in community—while constantly being told they’re “too much,” “too loud,” or “too ambitious.” When brilliance is both celebrated and punished, how do Black women navigate systems that reward mediocrity yet demand their mastery?

We’re joined by Nicole Robinson, CEO of YWCA Chicago, to explore the emotional, professional, and personal cost of being exceptional in spaces not built for us.

Together, we ask: What does it look like to define excellence on our own terms? How do we transform it from a burden into a launchpad?

A conversation about truth-telling, resistance, and reclaiming power—because Black women aren’t just meeting the standard; we’re setting it.

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