In this episode, I have a heartfelt conversation with Dr Zen Zeng—a concert pianist, conference interpreter, professional speaker, and master teacher whose work bridges music, psychology, leadership, and personal growth. Zen draws on decades of international performance and coaching, sharing her journey from perfectionism and burnout to embracing imperfection and self-compassion.

Zen introduces her signature STAGE framework—a practical inward journey designed to help high achievers find sustainable excellence without burnout:

• S: Stillness—learning how to pause, listen deeply, and connect with your true self
• T: Truth—discovering what really matters to you, beyond societal or ego-driven expectations
• A: Alignment—living in sync with your core values and purpose, which fuels energy and resilience
• G: Growth—embracing personal evolution without losing yourself in the pursuit of success
• E: Expression—showing up authentically, sharing your story, and making your unique mark on the world

We discuss why intentional listening is the skill leaders (and humans!) need most, how to develop "imperfectionist" values, and why community and honest conversations are crucial for meaningful, lasting change. Zen also shares insights from her book "Crescendo: A High Achiever's Journey from Perfection to Freedom" and her Imperfectionist Collective—a global community supporting mindful excellence and wellbeing.

• Moving from performance and perfection to authenticity and freedom
• The warning signs of burnout and how self-awareness can help you course-correct
• The power of deep listening (not just in music or conversation, but in life)
• Redefining "success" and building systems for sustainable achievement
• How to be intentional in what you consume—food, content, relationships, habits
• The importance of imperfection, letting go, and community

• Website: zenzeng.net
• Instagram: @crescendo_with_zen
• The Imperfectionist Collective: join the waitlist via her website
• Her book "Crescendo: A High Achiever's Journey from Perfection to Freedom" is available now

💚 Whether you're navigating burnout, seeking deeper meaning, or ready to unlearn perfectionism, this episode is a toolkit for building a more sustainable, connected, and joyful way to achieve.