In this episode Steve and Jess unpack a question many of us think about but rarely admit out loud: When is it smart risk-taking… and when is it simply gambling?

The conversation begins with confessions, before diving into the psychology behind risk, excitement and the chase for dopamine.

From thrill-seeking behaviour to escapism and social pressure, they explore why gambling can be so compelling… even when we know the odds are stacked against us.

But what about the other side? Why do some people avoid gambling altogether? Financial trauma, fear of loss and moral judgement all play their part. Jess explains how our past experiences shape the way we feel about uncertainty.

Steve draws a sharp line between gambling and investing, breaking down their differences in strategy, purpose and timeline. The pair also discuss the “dark side” of investment apps and the psychological tricks used to encourage rapid buying and selling — often disguised as investing but rooted in gambling behaviour.

The episode closes with practical tools to stay on the right side of the line:

• Money fixes: financial planning, realistic goals and focusing on return on life rather than just return on investment.
• Psychological fixes: managing emotions, knowing your risk profile and seeking help when money becomes an escape rather than a plan.

And in true Sockology style, it all ends with a pair of socks you woudn't want to miss.

A light-hearted conversation with a serious message: long-term wealth is built on patience, not lucky breaks.