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Ep 71: A Conversation with Grace Bell on Loving What Is

Ep 71: A Conversation with Grace Bell on Loving What Is

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November 18, 2025
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Ep 71: A Conversation with Grace Bell on Loving What Is

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In this heartwarming episode, Jen welcomes Grace to share her journey of helping people find peace through questioning their thoughts. Grace discovered this transformative approach through Byron Katie's work, which taught her that suffering comes from believing our thoughts as the single origin of truth.

The conversation flows naturally as Jen and Grace swap notes on how they each work with clients, diving into how thoughts contribute to suffering. Grace opens up about the delicate balance in her practice—combining factual education with compassionate support for people's relationship to their suffering, especially with issues like body image. They talk through what it's like to work with Grace and how she helps clients discover the peace that comes from loving what is. It's an authentic, relatable conversation between two people who genuinely get it.

Favorite Quotes

“Something difficult happens. That happens once, but how many times more did it happen in your own mind?” - Grace

“Reality is kinder than the mind makes it out to be.” - Grace

“Who would you be without your story?” - Grace

Resources

Jen's Instagram
Jen's Substack
McDaniel Nutrition Therapy Instagram
McDaniel Nutrition Therapy Website
Past Podcast Episodes
Work with Grace Website
Byron Katie
Tiny Habits (BJ Fogg)

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