In this episode of In the Groove with Todd and Jackie, Todd and Jackie welcome Jan Hoath, known as The Joy Alchemist, for a heartfelt and inspiring conversation about choosing joy — even when life feels uncertain, heavy, or imperfect. Jan shares the deeper message behind her book Joy Anyway and invites listeners to rethink joy not as a reward or destination, but as a daily practice and intentional choice.

Together, they explore how joy can coexist with grief, challenge, growth, and transition — and still transform the way we experience our lives.

This episode offers a gentle yet powerful reminder that joy is not something we wait for when circumstances improve. It’s something we return to, again and again, right where we are.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

✨ What it really means to choose joy anyway

💛 Why joy is a practice, not a personality trait or privilege

🧠 How mindset shifts can change the way we experience everyday life

🌱 How joy can coexist with hardship, healing, and growth

📖 The heart and message behind Jan’s book Joy Anyway

This conversation is for anyone who needs encouragement, perspective, or a reminder that joy is still available — even in seasons of uncertainty.

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🌐 Learn more about Jan Hoath: https://www.janjoymentor.com/

💬 If this conversation resonates with you, please share it with someone who could use a little more joy, hope, or encouragement today.

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