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Ep. #3 with Zack Telander: Reinvention, Discipline, and Creative Freedom

Ep. #3 with Zack Telander: Reinvention, Discipline, and Creative Freedom

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Brandon and Drew sit down with Zack Telander, musician and former fitness creator, to talk about reinvention, discipline, and creative freedom. What started as lifting videos and strength culture eventually turned into a full pivot into music and a decision to go all-in on something completely different in his 30s.


Zack breaks down the reality of building an independent music career from scratch, why traditional record deals aren’t always what they seem, and how “golden handcuffs” quietly trap artists into careers they didn’t actually want. They get into audience capture, the pressure to perform online, and what happens when your identity outgrows the thing that made you successful.


It’s about starting over without guarantees, choosing the harder path, and building something that actually feels like yours.


Catch Zack’s latest MUSIC ALBUM and Tour dates below:

  • https://www.instagram.com/zack_telander/

NEW ALBUM:

  • https://open.spotify.com/album/3rNIGmMBjSk0vqOoQBZWNK?si=7i8kPMG7Ql-fJ-zjQ54Kpg

Tour Dates:

  • https://www.telander.live/
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