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Ecosystemic Futures

Ecosystemic Futures

By: Dyan Finkhousen: CEO of Shoshin Works
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Ecosystemic Futures engages with the world’s elite thought leaders who are researching and leading meaningful development in areas that could impact society in the next half century. Provided by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project - Ecosystemic Futures explores technological advances and structural patterns that will help us better innovate, operate, and navigate in our increasingly connected world. Join the conversation as NASA leaders, and industry and policy luminaries share their perspectives with host Dyan Finkhousen, a leading strategist and global authority on ecosystemic solutions, and brilliant co-hosts.© Shoshin Works Science
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  • 104. The New Rules of Power
    Sep 9 2025

    Traditional geopolitical analysis is dead. A $10,000 drone can now destroy a $100 million military platform—and this "budgetary exhaustion" strategy is already transforming how smart companies compete. We need systems thinking to navigate the four forces reshaping global power:

    balance of power, technology, climate change, and the nature of warfare.


    Dr. Nicholas Kenney, founder of Beacon Geopolitical Intelligence, reveals how modern conflict operates through "budgetary exhaustion"—using $10K drones to destroy $100M platforms—and why this asymmetric strategy is already transforming business competition.


    Paradigm Shifts:

    From Stocks to Flows: Geopolitical power no longer comes from controlling territories but from commanding technological stacks—the entire pipeline from extraction to distribution

    Budgetary Exhaustion Strategy: Ukraine's drone warfare model now applies to business—use low-cost innovation to neutralize competitors' expensive advantages

    Private Geopolitical Actors: Individual entrepreneurs (Musk/Starlink) now make decisions traditionally reserved for governments, creating new power dynamics


    Ecosystem Impact:

    → China's rare earths dominance forced US policy concessions—not through military might but technological stack control

    → DeepSeek vs OpenAI: 80% capability at 20% cost demonstrates an asymmetric competitive strategy

    → Leadership evolution: from "top-down control" to "center-out influence" in complex systems


    The Innovation: Recognizing that interconnections between system elements matter more than individual components. Success comes from understanding how power flows through networks, not from accumulating static resources.


    Strategic Application: Any organization can apply "budgetary exhaustion" principles—identify competitors' expensive advantages, then develop low-cost alternatives that force unsustainable resource allocation. The goal isn't superiority but sustainability.


    Strategic Reframe: In our interconnected world, ask: "What technological stacks do we need to control, and how do we position ourselves at the center of critical flows rather than trying to dominate from the top?"


    The most resilient ecosystems cultivate influence through connection, not control.


    Guest: Dr. Nicholas Kenney, Founder, Beacon Geopolitical Intelligence


    Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Series Hosts:

    Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center

    Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Ecosystemic Futures is provided by NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project in collaboration with Shoshin Works.

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    52 mins
  • 103. Source Code
    Sep 2 2025

    The universe's most sophisticated R&D lab has been running experiments for 4 billion years—and we're just learning how to read the results. The revelation? Nature's laboratory has field-tested solutions for health and resilience—we need human discernment to look in the right places, ask the right questions, and apply the right tools.


    Dr. Martin Kussmann, Head of Science at Bavaria's Competence Center for Nutrition and CEO of Kussmann Biotech, reveals: peptides function as "words of biology" that teach the body to heal itself—transforming nutrition from passive gap-filling to active biological programming.


    Paradigm Shifts:

    Biological Language Discovery: Peptides are the "words of biology" that program biological responses through molecular communication. The parallel: organizational messaging similarly "programs" stakeholder behaviors

    AI as Nature's Librarian: Instead of brute force testing, AI predicts which of nature's millions of bioactive compounds solve specific problems—compressing discovery from years to weeks

    The Implementation Gap Crisis: "We know quite a few things, we just don't do it"—the most significant barrier isn't knowledge but making solutions attractive, affordable, adoptable


    Ecosystem Impact:

    → Traditional bioactive discovery: 5-10 years vs. AI-guided platforms: 2-6 weeks

    → C. elegans worm testing: shares evolutionary biology with humans while enabling rapid validation

    → Mass spectrometry: tracks nutrients through metabolism like "telescopes for the molecular universe"


    The Innovation: Human-AI collaboration combining strategic biological intuition with computational power. Success comes from knowing where to look in biology's 4-billion-year archive, not just having better search tools.

    Strategic Application: Any ecosystem can revolutionize its performance by developing discernment to identify which natural solutions apply to its specific context. This pattern recognition—knowing which proven solutions apply rather than reinventing—transforms both biological and business ecosystems.

    Strategic Reframe: The most adaptive ecosystems cultivate wisdom to ask: "What has nature already solved that applies to our challenge—and how do we recognize those solutions and apply appropriate tools?" Just as nature provides field-tested molecular solutions, successful approaches often exist in other contexts, waiting to be recognized and adapted.


    Guest: Dr. Martin Kussmann, Head of Science, Competence Center for Nutrition | CEO, Kussmann Biotech GmbH


    Host: Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Series Hosts:

    Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center

    Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Ecosystemic Futures is provided by NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project in collaboration with Shoshin Works.

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    57 mins
  • 102. Orchestrated Autonomy: The Ecosystem Accelerator Government Misses
    Aug 19 2025

    The Apollo Program achieved humanity's most significant technological leap through "orchestrated autonomy"—a hidden methodology for ecosystem velocity and optimization that modern government partnerships miss. Breakthrough insight? True innovation requires autonomous components working independently first, then strategic orchestration second.


    Lieutenant Colonel Russ Matijevich reveals why the government seeks integration before independence, thereby stifling the innovation it demands. Ecosystems thrive when stakeholders maintain autonomous excellence, then leaders orchestrate a strategic combination of diverse outputs—not when consensus-seeking destroys individual contribution.


    Paradigm Shifts:

    The Independence Paradox: Innovation ecosystems thrive when stakeholders are NOT dependent on each other but are rather aligned in mutual interest—Apollo succeeded through autonomous excellence vs consensus

    The Collective Intelligence Inversion: True "wisdom of crowds" is elevated with independent inputs; collaboration before individual contribution can collapse intelligence into groupthink

    The Commercial Viability Paradox: Government seeks technologies that don't depend on government funding—companies with independent commercial success become more attractive procurement targets

    The Efficiency Paradox: More budget creates less innovation—Apollo achieved the impossible on balanced budgets, while today's 6-7% GDP deficits yield diminishing returns


    The Innovation: Innovation ecosystems thrive through structural independence aligned by missions that matter—companies that aren't dependent on government contracts paradoxically become more attractive government buyers.


    Strategic Reframe: Shift from "How do we align interests?" to: "How do we orchestrate autonomous excellence for breakthrough innovation?"


    #EcosystemicFutures #InnovationParadox #StrategicTension


    Guest: Russ Matijevich, Owner & CEO, Matijevich International Consulting | Retired USAF Lt. Colonel | Former Chief Innovation Officer, Airbus US Space & Defense


    Host: Marco Annunziata, Co-Founder, Annunziata + Desai Advisors | Economics PhD | Former Chief Economist, GE


    Series Hosts:

    Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center

    Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


    Ecosystemic Futures is provided by NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project in collaboration with Shoshin Works.

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    39 mins
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