What does it really mean to live a successful life? Is success about achievements, wealth, or status or is it something much deeper?

In this powerful episode of the Different Hats Podcast, I sit down with my good friend Dr. Carlos Saba, co-founder of The Happy Startup School. Carlos shares his journey from chasing external markers of success to redefining it as a feeling of alignment, acceptance, and agency.

We dive into:

• The evolving definition of success beyond money and milestones
• Emotional intelligence and why schools must nurture curiosity, not just grades
• Why shame, comparison, and old money stories hold us back
• The idea of “Happy Money” and how our stories around money shape our lives
• Midlife transitions, the “second mountain,” and asking Who am I becoming?
• How to create your own blueprint for life and stop living by outdated societal narratives

This conversation is packed with wisdom on presence, purpose, and emotional awareness, reminding us all that success is not about having more, but about being more.

00:00 – Intro What is Happy Money?

06:02 – Redefining success as a feeling of alignment

07:31 – From black belts to diaries: chasing early success goals

12:45 – Why being still is so hard in today’s society

17:56 – Childhood, conditioning & the stories we inherit

21:27 – Is the school system broken? Emotional literacy & curiosity

26:27 – Parents, teachers & environments shaping emotional awareness

29:08 – Rage, shame & teaching children emotional intelligence

32:43 – Can we measure emotional intelligence like grades?

37:48 – The “Second Mountain” of purpose & contribution

42:45 – Finding your values and purpose vs. chasing titles

48:21 – Questioning the life blueprint: marriage, career & curiosity

53:14 – Compassion, forgiveness & letting go of “the one way”

55:41 – Feeling stuck? Where to start with transition

59:10 – The First Mountain vs. the Second Mountain

1:01:43 – Redefining money: Happy Money & financial stories

1:09:51 – Scarcity, shame & abundance

1:13:29 – What is happiness? Acceptance & agency

1:15:35 – Responsibility, awareness & self-compassion

1:18:31 – Life as an adventure, not a scoreboard

1:20:29 – Chaos, stories & infinite games

1:25:24 – Death, joy & making the game better

1:29:13 – Agency, acceptance & connection

1:30:13 – Summer camp, friendship & fulfillment

1:33:30 – The key midlife question: Who am I becoming?

1:36:02 – Closing tradition: Storytelling card reflection

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🔗 Connect with Dr. Carlos Saba

Website: https://www.happystartupschool.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlossaba

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What if schools prepared young people not just to pass exams, but to live fulfilled, resilient, and happy lives?

In this inspiring conversation, I sit down with Max Marshall, a former teacher who left the classroom after 10 years to disrupt an outdated education system. Max now champions a vision for schools that prioritise emotional intelligence, resilience, and self-confidence over rote learning.

Together, we explore how redefining success for children could transform not just education, but the future mental health of our society. From Habits for Happiness to emotional tolerance, Max shares practical ideas for parents, teachers, and leaders and why teaching children to manage their emotions could ultimately save lives.

This is one of the most important and game-changing conversations I’ve had on the podcast to date.

00:00 Introduction – Fixing what schools miss

02:30 Max defines success: from popularity to fulfilment

07:00 The danger of external validation & social media

10:20 Teaching intrinsic success to children

15:00 Rethinking competition, failure & resilience

23:00 Why schools must change: outdated curriculum

27:30 The problem with SATs and measuring success

32:40 Emotional intelligence vs academic intelligence

40:00 What children really need to thrive in life

47:30 Pushback from schools & systemic barriers

55:00 Habits for Happiness – practical daily routines

1:05:00 Preparing children for secondary school & life

1:20:00 Choosing who you want to become

1:40:00 What success looks like for the next generation

1:52:00 Closing reflections & the Different Hats card

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🔗 Connect with Max Marshall

Website: https://lifeeducationcoaching.co.uk/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lifeeducationwithmax/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-marshall-life-education/

Follow Max here 👉 https://linktr.ee/maxmarshall.life.education

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⚠️ Warning ⚠️ This episode contains content that may be alarming to some listeners. We do talk about suicide which we know can be distressing.

In this powerful episode, I sit down with Jon Kennett, agency director, family man, and someone who’s lived through the highs of ambition and the lows of loss.

Jon opens up about how his definition of success has shifted over the years from chasing houses, cars, and financial milestones, to focusing on happiness, health, and the relationships that matter most.

We dive deep into themes of presence, fulfilment, balance, and relationships from practical business lessons around leadership and networking, to raw, emotional conversations about mental health and suicide. Jon shares the heartbreaking stories of close friends he’s lost, the ripple effects on everyone left behind, and why breaking the stigma around these conversations is so important.

This episode is both deeply human and practical with lessons on leadership, resilience, and the everyday sparks of meaning that keep us going.

• Redefining what success really means
• Why fulfilment is about the journey, not the destination
• Building genuine relationships over transactions
• Lessons from Jon’s father and a childhood immersed in music & performance
• Mental health, suicide, and the ripple effect of loss
• Leadership, trust, and putting the right people in the right seats
• Family, presence, and the everyday sparks of meaning

00:00 – Opening & introductions

03:20 – Redefining success: from cars and houses to health, happiness, and family

12:15 – The pursuit vs. the destination: presence and fulfilment

20:40 – Networking done right: building relationships, not selling

31:00 – Growing up in music, confidence through performance, and lessons from his father

42:30 – Validation, highs & lows of the music industry

54:10 – Mental health, suicide, and losing a close friend

1:06:00 – The ripple effect: multiple friends lost to suicide and how it changed Jon’s outlook

1:24:00 – What needs to change: stigma, emotional education, and starting young

1:38:00 – Leadership lessons: building trust and putting the right people in the right seats

1:46:00 – Advice to a younger self

1:47:00 – Staying present as a father and leader

1:55:00 – Closing reflections: what sparks meaning in everyday life

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🔗 Connect with Jon Kennett

LinkedIn: Jon Kennett

💡 If this episode resonated with you, please like, share, and comment below. Your support helps us spread this important message and change the narrative around success and mental health.

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Rivervale – www.rivervale.co.uk

Plus X – https://www.plusxinnovation.com/

PRODUCED BY:

H2 Productions – https://h2productions.co.uk/

*If you’ve been affected by any of the topics in today’s episode, please reach out to local support services or find resources via Samaritans (UK) or equivalent helplines in your country.

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