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Deep Leadership

Deep Leadership

By: Jon S. Rennie
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 “Leadership is a People Business.” That's the philosophy of this leadership podcast from Jon Rennie. It's real-world, actionable advice from Jon as well as his expert guests. As a former Cold War Submarine Officer who spent 22 years leading businesses in Corporate America before starting his own manufacturing business, he knows that leadership matters!Jon S. Rennie Economics Management Management & Leadership Philosophy Social Sciences
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  • #0409 – Leadership at the Highest Level: Inside Camp David with Michael Giorgione

    #0409 – Leadership at the Highest Level: Inside Camp David with Michael Giorgione
    Dec 27 2025
    What does leadership look like at the absolute highest level? In this episode of Deep Leadership, I’m joined by Michael Giorgione, a retired U.S. Navy Rear Admiral who served as the Commander of Camp David, the secluded presidential retreat where some of the most important leadership decisions in history have taken place. Michael takes us inside Camp David and shares what it’s really like to serve presidents up close. We talk about leadership under pressure, trust, humility, and what happens behind closed doors when world leaders step away from the spotlight. From hosting presidents and their families to supporting high-stakes diplomatic summits, Michael offers rare insights into how leaders think, build relationships, and rely on their teams when the stakes couldn’t be higher. This conversation isn’t about politics. It’s about leadership, responsibility, and what it means to lead people well when there’s no room for failure. If you’re interested in leadership, history, or how trust and character shape decision-making at the top, this episode is for you. In this episode, we discuss: What Camp David is really like behind the scenes Leadership lessons learned from serving two U.S. presidents Why trust and humility matter more than authority How great leaders build relationships before a crisis hits What leaders at every level can learn from Camp David 📘 Learn more about Michael’s book Inside Camp David 🌐 Visit his website for leadership speaking and coaching https://www.insidecampdavid.com/ 🎙️ Subscribe for more conversations on leadership that actually matters If you found value in this episode, please like, subscribe, and share. It helps us continue building a world with better leaders. Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cadre of Men⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Farrow Skin Care⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Salty Sailor Coffee Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leader Connect⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Qualified Leadership Series⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ____ Get all of Jon Rennie's bestselling leadership books for 15% off the regular price today! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • #0408 – Presilience: A Leadership Framework for Thriving in Crisis and Uncertainty with Dr. Gavriel Schneider

    #0408 – Presilience: A Leadership Framework for Thriving in Crisis and Uncertainty with Dr. Gavriel Schneider
    Dec 21 2025
    Presilience: A Leadership Framework for Thriving in Crisis and Uncertainty with Dr. Gavriel Schneider In today’s volatile and uncertain world, resilience is no longer enough. Leaders must learn how to thrive before a crisis hits. In this episode of Deep Leadership, I’m joined by Dr. Gavriel Schneider, an internationally recognized expert in security, risk intelligence, and leadership under pressure. Gav is the creator of the Presilience framework, a proactive approach to leadership that helps individuals and organizations turn disruption into opportunity. We explore why traditional risk management and compliance models fall short in today’s VUCA environment, and what leaders must do differently to sustain high performance during uncertainty, disruption, and crisis. Gav shares real-world lessons from decades of advising governments, critical infrastructure, and global organizations, along with insights from psychology, decision-making, and high-performance leadership. If you’re leading a team, running a business, or navigating constant change, this conversation will challenge how you think about resilience, risk, and leadership. In this episode, we discuss: What presilience is and why it matters now The difference between surviving disruption and thriving through it How leaders make better decisions under pressure Why resilient organizations require resilient people Turning risk into opportunity in a complex, digital world Leading with confidence when certainty is gone About today’s guest: Dr. Gavriel Schneider is the CEO of the Risk2 Solution Group, a former program director in the psychology of risk, and the author of Presilience: How to Navigate Risk, Embrace Opportunity, and Build Resilience. He has trained thousands of professionals worldwide in crisis leadership, risk intelligence, and decision-making. 📘 Learn more about Presilience: Links to Gav’s book, website, and resources are below. https://risk2solution.com/ https://amzn.to/3Y6AHzS 🎧 Subscribe to Deep Leadership for weekly conversations with experts who help leaders think clearly, lead confidently, and build organizations that thrive—especially when things get hard. Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cadre of Men⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Farrow Skin Care⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Salty Sailor Coffee Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leader Connect⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Qualified Leadership Series⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ____ Get all of Jon Rennie's bestselling leadership books for 15% off the regular price today! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • #0407 – How to Build Real Influence as a Leader with Brad Englert

    #0407 – How to Build Real Influence as a Leader with Brad Englert
    Dec 14 2025
    How to Build Real Influence as a Leader with Brad Englert How do leaders build real influence that lasts, not just connections that fade? In this episode of Deep Leadership, I’m joined by Brad Englert, author of Spheres of Influence and former CIO at the University of Texas at Austin. Brad shares decades of leadership experience on how authentic relationships, not transactional networking, are the true foundation of influence, trust, and long-term success. We talk about why most networking events fail, how leaders should think about their internal and external spheres of influence, and why trust must be built before a crisis hits. Brad also explains how getting out of your office, meeting people where they are, and genuinely caring about their success can transform your leadership and your career. This conversation is packed with practical leadership lessons, real-world stories, and a simple message every leader needs to hear: real influence is earned through consistency, humility, and relationships that endure. In this episode, we cover: What real influence looks like in leadership Internal vs. external spheres of influence Why traditional networking doesn’t work How trust and reciprocity are built over time Leading with authenticity, care, and intention You can learn more about Brad Englert, get a free sample of his book Spheres of Influence, and explore his work - https://bradenglert.com/podcast If you found this episode valuable, subscribe and share so we can continue to build a world with better bosses. Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cadre of Men⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Farrow Skin Care⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Salty Sailor Coffee Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leader Connect⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Qualified Leadership Series⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ____ Get all of Jon Rennie's bestselling leadership books for 15% off the regular price today! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    35 mins
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