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CyberVersed

CyberVersed

By: National Cyber Resilience Centre Group
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Summary
 The podcast from those well-versed in all things cyber. Mandy Haeburn-Little, Cyber Woman of the Year 2021, in conjunction with the National Cyber Resilience Centre Group (NCRCG), brings listeners access to strategic conversations with industry leaders and figures in the UK's cyber resilience landscape. With a changing roster of high-profile guests from across policing, government, academia and business, stay tuned for the latest in the UK's cyber security landscape. The NCRCG is a non-profit organisation set up to strengthen the reach and future of cyber resilience in the UK, funded and supported by the Home Office, policing and Ambassador partners.2023 Economics Politics & Government
Episodes
  • Episode 56 – In conversation with Joseph Anthony

    Episode 56 – In conversation with Joseph Anthony
    Oct 12 2026

    In episode 56, Dr Mandy Haeburn-Little is joined by Chief Superintendent Joseph Anthony, Head of the National Cyber Crime Team and National Police Chiefs' Council Lead for Fraud & Cyber Protect. Joe recently took up his new position at City of London Police, so Mandy was keen to meet him and learn more about the role and his vision.

    Joe begins by sharing his excitement and sense of privilege in taking on this role. He also appreciates the enormity of the challenge, acknowledging that cybercrime causes enormous harm to individuals, businesses, and public services, describing it as "one of the defining safety challenges of our time". He also believes his previous experience will be valuable in the new role, and that his passion for understanding digital data and technology, and how they can improve community outcomes, will help. On the scale of the role, he outlines its breadth, including overseeing cybercrime capability across police forces and ROCUs, national funding activities to pursue offenders, preventing reoffending, and protecting and preparing communities to avoid becoming victims of cybercrime. But he is keen to point out the ultimate focus is prevention. His priority will be building local cybercrime capability; working closely with government to develop legislation and policy; expanding prevention work with partners; and forging strategic public-private partnerships to unlock expertise and expand reach. He explains that developing the online serious organised crime capability must focus on understanding and disrupting organised serious crime activity, including the dark web, criminal marketplace analysis, criminal network analysis, and crypto asset opportunities, and on sharing intelligence with industry partners. The conversation then moves to the National Ambassador Programme; he believes that working together we can achieve so much more. He acknowledges that the National Ambassador network provides access to expertise, innovation, influence, and agility, and can move quickly to reach hundreds of thousands of customers and suppliers they engage with daily. So, combining policing's intelligence, prevention messaging, and public safety expertise with everything the National Ambassadors can offer makes it a truly remarkable programme. Joe explains his 'So what?' approach and why it helps focus on impact rather than simply reporting activity. He talks about the need to evidence behavioural change and why we need to analyse the data to highlight gaps and identify where improvements are needed. To conclude the conversation, Joe expresses his excitement about the Cyber PATH programme. He sees equal value for businesses and students: SMEs can benefit from fully funded technical services. In contrast, students gain technical and personal skills, while the economy benefits from a robust cyber talent pipeline.
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    21 mins
  • Episode 55 - Cyber PATH in focus

    Episode 55 - Cyber PATH in focus
    Oct 5 2026
    In episode 55, Mandy Haebrun-Little is joined by Rachel Lloyd-Moseley, Head of Cyber PATH; Lizzie Young, Cyber PATH Talent Manager; and Rania Hindy, Cyber PATH Technical Adviser, to talk about all things Cyber PATH! Rachel, now two months into her role as Head of Cyber PATH, begins by sharing her obvious enthusiasm and delight at working closely with her team to offer genuine opportunities for students on the programme. She also points out that she is no stranger to working with young people; in her previous role in construction, she worked closely with apprentices and graduates. Indeed, she still mentors and is clearly passionate about encouraging young people to reach their full potential. Rachel also shared her excitement about developing the Team and extending the programme in the coming months. Lizzie Young is also a relatively new addition to the Cyber PATH team; she recently transferred from her role at the Cyber Resilience Centre for the North East. So, she is new to her role as Cyber PATH Talent Manager, but not new to the programme. She also shares her enthusiasm for working closely with the students; she is already amazed by the range of opportunities available to them and looks forward to supporting them in developing their technical and personal skills. Mandy also chats with Rania Hindy, whose excitement about being appointed Technical Supervisor is obvious. Of the three Cyber PATH team members on the podcast, Rania has the most experience with the programme; she started as a Cyber PATH student during her university studies, and she is clearly delighted to supervise the latest cohort and ensure they are fully trained to deliver services to the SME community. The excitement and anticipation are clear; the next round of recruitment begins with two recruitment webinars on 7th October and 12th October, and applications for the programme open on 7 October. It is a fascinating conversation, with each of the three providing excellent insight into their roles and the programme's plans. For details about joining the Cyber PATH programme and to submit your application from the 7th October, go to https://cyberpath.co.uk/students/
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    32 mins
  • Episode 54 – National Ambassador Focus – ICO

    Episode 54 – National Ambassador Focus – ICO
    Oct 1 2026

    In episode 54 of the CyberVersed podcast, we introduce our latest National Ambassador, the ICO. Heather Toomey, Principal Cyber Specialist at the ICO joins Mandy Haeburn-Little.

    Mandy begins by asking Heather to provide a snapshot of the ICO, noting that many people assume they know the organisation's role, but the extent of its work is rarely fully understood. Heather provides a useful overview of the ICO as the UK's regulator for information, security and data protection. Although. Heather concedes they are most commonly associated with the Data Protection Act and UK GDPR, she goes on to explain the breadth of their remit, overseeing a number of other regulations across the UK.

    When quizzed about the 'big bad wolf' perception, Heather acknowledges that, as a regulatory organisation, enforcement is necessary. Still, she highlights the wide range of proactive work they do through their Business Advisory Service and Audit and Assurance Team to support businesses, many of which don't have personnel dedicated to data protection or compliance.

    She also points to the range of tailored guidance and the ICO's goal of ensuring it is appropriate and relevant to the organisations engaging with them, helping them understand what good looks like.

    The conversation helps listeners to understand the ICO's approach and how organisations are encouraged to engage, whether to explore something new they intend to implement or because they've experienced an incident. If it is in response to a breach, Heather's clear advice is to engage as early as possible; this not only shows they recognise and accept there could be a compliance issue, but also helps them get the support they need promptly.

    Heather also explains why the ICO was keen to become a National Ambassador and work with the CRC Network, and why she believes the CRC services will be a good solution for many of the businesses they engage with.

    It is an engaging conversation and a first-class insight into an organisation keen to work proactively with others. To round off the episode, Mandy and Heather talk about AI and other emerging technologies, with Heather encouraging organisations to take advantage of the growth opportunities they present, but only after taking time to understand the risks.

    As Mandy states at the outset, most people assume they know what ICO is. However, the conversation reveals many strands to their work and that, while they may be a regulatory body, their primary goal is to engage with and support UK organisations. To quote Heather: "Everybody is a statistic if they don't choose to make a conscious effort to avoid being one." ICO are certainly helping with those efforts daily.
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    25 mins
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