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CyberVersed

CyberVersed

By: National Cyber Resilience Centre Group
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The podcast from those well-versed in all things cyber. Mandy Haeburn-Little, Cyber Woman of the Year 2021, in conjunction with the National Cyber Resilience Centre Group (NCRCG), brings listeners access to strategic conversations with industry leaders and figures in the UK's cyber resilience landscape. With a changing roster of high-profile guests from across policing, government, academia and business, stay tuned for the latest in the UK's cyber security landscape. The NCRCG is a non-profit organisation set up to strengthen the reach and future of cyber resilience in the UK, funded and supported by the Home Office, policing and Ambassador partners.2023 Economics Politics & Government
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  • Episode 49 - Chainalysis and Blockchain Intelligence
    Jan 15 2026

    In CyberVersed episode 49, Mandy Haeburn-Little is joined by Logan Sealey, Regional Director, Chainalysis, and Salih Altuntas, Director, Investigations, NEMEA, Chainalysis.

    In this episode, we focus on the work of Chainalysis, looking at threats and opportunities and the broader topic of cryptoanalysis.

    Mandy begins by asking Logan about the current threats in Cyber and Fraud, and how the two are converging. Logan highlights the massive increase in illicit crypto transactions, moving from £59 billion in 2024 to £154 billion, making 2025 a record year for crypto activity. Logan also asks and answers whether the fact that almost all cybercrime transactions move through crypto is good or bad news.

    Logan also highlights how they are using blockchain intelligence to move from a reactive to a more proactive approach, enabling them to identify illegal activity and shut it down, reducing losses and the duration of attacks.

    Logan also explains how blockchain data is helping increase connectivity among partners worldwide; this collaboration is assisting law enforcement in identifying attacks and even contacting people before they become victims.

    Salih Altuntas joins the conversation with a very helpful explanation of what blockchain is and how it operates. He also provides some insight into how the data is used and what they can see and interpret through careful analysis. Silah also explains how his background in law enforcement is helping his communication with their partners, and he highlights the primary changes he is witnessing now compared to when we worked in policing.

    Salih also provides a helpful update on popular cryptocurrencies and how they have changed in recent times. He also includes information on what they can see about how cybercriminals are moving cryptocurrency, helping them gain a greater understanding of the entire cybercriminal ecosystem. This includes fascinating insights into money laundering techniques and how blockchain analysis is helping them understand how criminals are converting cryptocurrency back into traditional cash. Ultimately, this can enable law enforcement to intervene and recover the proceeds of crime.

    Mandy rounds out the podcast by asking Silah how regulators and governments are responding to the activity Chainalysis is seeing, to which he offers his opinion on the increasing sophistication of law enforcement and the courts. Logan finishes by encouraging all organisations to consider adding blockchain intelligence to their cyber resilience armoury.

    In Mandy's words, it is an 'absorbing discussion' and a valuable insight into blockchain intelligence and the cybercriminal ecosystem.

    Logan was also kind enough to share a link to their newly published report, which is the latest data insights on illicit crypto trends for 2025. You can access it HERE.

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    38 mins
  • Episode 48 - The MSP Community (Part 2)
    Dec 21 2025

    CyberVersed episode 48 is Part 2 of our focus on the MSP Community. Mandy Haeburn-Little is joined by Michelle Ohren, Director of the Cyber Resilience Centre for the West Midlands, Wayne Selk, VP, Cybersecurity Programs & Executive Director, GTIA ISAO, and Patrick Milford, the newly appointed Cyber Resilience Centre (CRC) Lead.

    Michelle shares her experience working with the MSP community. She believes they are essential to the ecosystem, where all stakeholders are focused on the same outcome: helping businesses avoid becoming victims of cybercrime. Michelle explains how she opened the conversation with MSPs to encourage them and explain why they are better equipped to support the SME community when they work together. She also cites an excellent example of an MSP referring a client to the CRC to ensure they received the best possible service for the budget they had available.

    Patrick outlines his new role as CRC Lead and his aim to ensure a consistent approach across the network, enabling them to support the SME community at scale. He then discusses his experience working with MSPs as the Director of the Cyber Resilience Centre for the South East. He explains why they were pivotal in reaching many SMEs in the region. He also outlines the benefits of the CRCs being vendor-neutral.

    Turning the focus back to his new role, Patrick emphasises that strengthening MSP relationships will be a primary focus for the entire CRC Network going forward. He also provides a valuable example of how the South East CRC has developed a strong working relationship with a large MSP in the South East region following an introduction at the recent GTIA ChannelCon EMEA Conference in London. South East CRC is now working closely with them, delivering joint webinars to their clients; it is an excellent example of how these collaborations are starting to pay dividends.

    Wayne goes on to talk about the importance of trust. He acknowledges the great work the CRC Network has done in building trust, so that MSPs are now not just willing to work with the CRC Network but actively seeking opportunities to collaborate in the future.

    Patrick talks about the National Engagement Strategy and how it will focus on driving behavioural change, encouraging SMEs to adopt Cyber PATH services and explore Cyber Essentials and Cyber Essentials Plus. Patrick sees MSPs as a vital element of this engagement strategy and welcomes the NCSC's recent guidance about what to look for when selecting an MSP. Wayne agrees with Patrick's assessment but goes further, explaining why SMEs must enquire about an MSP's processes for ongoing maturity and continuous improvement. All three agree that the NCSC's MSP guidance, combined with greater trust and confidence across the entire ecosystem, will enable SMEs to receive the proper expert advice.

    Michelle Ohren provides an update on the new West Midlands Cyber Hub based at Millennium Point in Birmingham and agrees to come back to the CyberVersed to explain their work in more detail.

    Links:

    Cyber Security Resilience Bill

    NCSC - Choosing a Managed Service Provider

    West Midlands Cyber Hub

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    32 mins
  • Episode 47 - The MSP Community
    Dec 6 2025

    In CyberVersed episode 47 Mandy Haeburn-Little is joined by two National Ambassador representatives: Wayne Selk, VP, Cybersecurity Programs & Executive Director, GTIA ISAO, and Jamie Akhtar, Co-Founder and CEO of CyberSmart. The topic of discussion is 'The MSP community,' which is Part 1 of a focus on MSPs.

    It's a lively and engaging three-way discussion that provides excellent insights into the MSP community and why they are essential in the drive to make the SME community throughout the UK better prepared and ultimately more cyber resilient.

    To begin the discussion, Wayne and Jamie define an MSP and discuss how the industry has developed in recent years from a 'Break-Fix' model to an essential provider of managed services to most businesses. Both Jamie and Wayne reinforce the pivotal role MSPs play in improving the cyber resilience of SMEs, explaining why they agree they are the key to greater protection for the SME community.

    They chat about regulation and what they consider the best way to develop the MSP community going forward to ensure SMEs receive the best possible service from their providers.

    Jamie provides insight into what their partners are telling them about their clients' attitude towards cybersecurity and shares some of the reasons cyber is not at the top of their list of priorities. Both then discuss the challenges of how cyber is presented and the need to reset the conversation around 'the why' rather than the technology. Wayne explains why he believes it should be much more about explaining business risk to business owners and how this approach is proving to be a revenue driver among their members.

    Jamie also touches on what SMEs want and why MSPs must deliver solutions that provide complete cyber confidence.

    Mandy then guides the conversation to 'two-way communication' and the efforts both organisations are making to improve the sharing of intel to and from the SME community. Wayne provides a great analogy to explain why everyone needs to share their piece of the jigsaw to see the whole picture. Jamie then reinforces that the MSPs are an essential element in completing the picture.

    The conversation then moves on to the role that the CRC Network play in delivering the message to the SME community and why the National Ambassadors must do what they can to improve the amplification of the great work being done through the Cyber Resilience Centres.

    Jamie also mentions the impending Cyber Security Resilience Bill and its impact on the MSP community. While Jamie describes it as one of the most significant shifts in the cybersecurity landscape, he expresses caution, believing it's a start but not the complete solution.

    The whole discussion sets a good picture and leads nicely into the next CyberVersed episode, which will be part two of the MSP-focused discussion, when they will also be joined by team members from the CRC Network.

    NCSC has also recently published guidance for SMEs when choosing an MSP. You can view it here.

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    39 mins
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