Crypto, AI and finance get treated like three rival religions. This conversation smashes them together and asks the only question that really matters: should normal people actually be putting money into any of this?

Kevin Rodrigues (TT | @shaikhkev) and Yuvir “Sketchy Bongo” Pillay (TT | @sketchybongo_official) sit with Andrew C (IG | @djenga_official), who went from chart-topping music and Locnville ties to building on Solana and living in the deep end of digital finance.

Andrew breaks down how he sees music, tech and money as the same game, while Kevin openly admits he sold all his crypto and refuses to hold anything he does not fully understand.

We get into:

• How Andrew moved from the music industry to crypto, and why that jump made more sense than it looks from the outside

• What crypto actually is beyond meme coins and signal groups, and why the boring “rails” of payments and stablecoins matter more than moon shots

• Tokenising cows, farms, buildings and other “real-world assets”, and the line between genuine innovation and Excel with shinier branding

• Bitcoin, stablecoins and Solana explained in normal language, plus why Kevin bailed out of crypto completely

• NFTs, bubbles, casino behaviour and why “my cousin made millions trading” is the worst story to model your money on

• Where AI belongs in investing (research, filtering, learning) and where it absolutely does not (telling you what to buy)

• What really changes for everyday people when money, credit and investment products go fully digital, and why UX and trust are now bigger problems than the tech itself

• The one habit Kevin thinks everyone should steal: using AI to digest information instead of outsourcing your judgment

This is not a “get rich with crypto” episode. It is a “stop being food for the system” episode.

Disclaimers

This conversation is for informational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, legal or tax advice. Crypto assets and other digital financial products are highly volatile and risky. Always do your own research and speak to a qualified, regulated financial professional before making any investment decisions.

Nothing in this episode is a recommendation to buy, sell or hold any asset, and past performance is not indicative of future results. All views are personal and do not represent any employer, organisation or partner.