Play isn’t the opposite of serious work. Iit’s a leadership mindset that helps teams stay curious, creative, and effective under pressure.

In this episode of the Creative Confidence Podcast, host Mina Seetharaman is joined by Cas Holman, play designer and author of Playful, and Michelle Lee, IDEO Partner and Executive Co-Managing Director, to explore how play supports better questions, psychological safety, and innovation at work.

Drawing on Cas’s work designing open-ended play systems and Michelle’s experience leading teams at IDEO, they share practical examples of how playful thinking shows up in real organizations and why it leads to better outcomes.

Related resources:

Playful by Cas Holman

Creative Thinking for Complex Problem Solving online course with IDEO U, taught by Michelle Lee

Full episode recap on the IDEO U blog

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IDEO CEO Mike Peng returns to the Creative Confidence Podcast to answer questions from listeners about modern creative leadership. Building on his previous episode, Mike goes deeper on how to lead creative teams when organizations resist change, how to reduce fear and build trust, what failure has taught him about leadership, and how to stay inspired in a fast-moving world.

If you’re a leader trying to foster creativity, guide teams through complexity, or rethink what creative excellence looks like today, this listener-driven episode offers grounded advice, real stories, and clear perspective you can apply right away.

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The creative leadership advice continues. In Part 2, creative leaders including IDEO partners, alumni, and IDEO U instructors share hard-won lessons on relationships, reflection, and staying human as we move into 2026. Host Mina Seetharaman and IDEO Partner Ilya Prokopoff share reactions and builds on each leader's advice.

Many of the leaders featured on this episode have been guests on the podcast. Find links to their episodes at ideou.com/blogs/inspiration.

Guests on this episode:

Grace Hwang — Design Leader; Former IDEO Associate Partner; Co-Founder, Upturn Health

Michelle Lee — Partner and Executive Managing Director, IDEO; IDEO U Instructor: Creative Thinking for Complex Problem Solving

Sara Kalick — Founder, The Possible: IDEO U Instructor: From Superpowers to Great Teams

Jenn Maer — Co-founder and Chief Creative Officer, Knitted; IDEO U Instructor: Storytelling for Influence

Jennifer Riel — Adjunct Professor, Rotman School of Management, University of Toronto; Former Head of Global Strategy, IDEO; IDEO U Instructor: Designing Strategy & Activating Strategy

Susie Wise — Designer, Design for Emergence; Author, Design for Belonging

Takashi Wickes — Founding Designer, Open Studio; IDEO U Instructor: Prototyping for AI

YC Sun — Senior Design Director, Healthcare and Wellbeing, IDEO

Dabney Hailey — Founder and Principal, Hailey Group; Lecturer, MIT Sloan

Amy Bonsall — Founder, Light Actions at Collective; IDEO U Instructor: Designing a Business

Frederik Pferdt — Former Chief Innovation Evangelist, Google; author of What’s Next is Now

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