Courage, Chaos and the Messy Truth About Change
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Courage, Chaos and the Messy Truth About Change
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About this listen
In this episode, I sit down with consultant, coach and author Steve Hearsum to talk about the uncomfortable realities of leadership, change and why there really isn’t a “fix it fast” solution for complex problems.
We dig into his book There’s No Silver Bullet and explore why the need for certainty often stops leaders from doing the deeper, inner work that actually matters.
It’s a conversation about courage, fragility and the importance of dialogue – the kind that helps us face the messiness of real organisational life without pretending we’ve got all the answers.
It’s smart, honest and full of those moments that make you pause and think.
Highlights:
(02:00) – Steve’s serendipitous journey from The Guardian to organisational development
(06:00) – The myth of fixability and why leadership “solutions” often fail
(10:15) – The danger of pretending to know the answers
(17:40) – HR, consultants and the “magician” role inside organisations
(25:00) – Why dialogue is the real silver bullet
(33:50) – Supervision, shame and doing the inner work that sharpens your practice
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