Most conversations about wealth stop at numbers.

This one does not.

In this episode of The Scaling Podcast, Aaron sits down with Christopher Mackin to explore how wealth, energy, identity, and decision-making intersect over a long career.

They unpack what happens when financial success outpaces personal alignment, how over-optimization can quietly erode health and relationships, and why many high performers eventually realize that money alone is not the finish line.

This is a grounded conversation about building wealth with intention, navigating major life transitions, and redefining success beyond hustle culture.

If you are an entrepreneur, operator, or business owner thinking long term, this episode will challenge how you think about money and what it is actually for.

Timestamps

00:00 Welcome and Christopher's background in wealth management
03:30 Discovering the missing piece beyond financial success
06:20 Energy, money, and how people relate to wealth
09:20 Spiritual experiences and shifting perspective
13:00 Burnout, overworking, and the cost of chasing growth
15:30 Stepping away from the CEO role and redefining success
18:45 Time and energy as business resources
23:00 Writing a personal life operating plan
27:30 Separating personal identity from public business roles
32:00 The concept of "enough" and why more is rarely the answer
36:15 Astrology, intuition, and expanding belief systems
40:30 What Reiki is and how Christopher uses it daily
44:20 Health, healing, and non-traditional approaches
47:20 How energy work influenced client relationships
50:30 Working with founders, exits, and family wealth
54:30 Wealth inheritance and responsibility across generations
58:00 Values-based investing and intentional capital deployment
01:02:00 Money, relationships, and communication
01:05:20 Preparing the next generation for wealth
01:09:20 Guardrails, planning, and long-term stewardship
01:12:30 Final reflections on conscious wealth