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Cleard Episode 4 - Jed & Carrie Malmberg

Cleard Episode 4 - Jed & Carrie Malmberg

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What happens when you chase the dream of becoming an airline pilot as a full-grown adult — and then the industry hits pause? In this episode, we sit down with Jed Malmberg, a CFI-turned-airline-hopeful, and his wife Carrie, to talk about the real-life turbulence of flight school in your 40s. From getting fired to airline hiring freezes, financial strain to emotional resilience, we explore the highs, lows, and everything in between — from both sides of the cockpit.


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