In this inspiring guest episode, Rich and Andy are joined by Carole Ray – one of our incredible Spring Marathon Heroes who has been training with us over the past 20 weeks with one powerful goal in mind: running her first-ever marathon at the age of 68.

Carole’s motivation runs deep. She’s taking on the London Marathon in support of Young Lives vs Cancer, after her nephew was diagnosed with cancer in 2023. Thankfully, he is now in remission – and his recovery became the spark that gave Carole her why. It drove her to chase something many thought unthinkable – and she’s done it.

Through training, Carole has shown pure grit, resilience, and an ability to “control the controllables.” She is the definition of what consistent hard work looks like. Now, 7 years alcohol-free, Carole is a lighthouse for us all – proof of the strength we can find when we commit to living life fully.

This is a raw, honest, and inspiring conversation.

Carole – just brilliant.

In this emotional and honest episode, Andy and Rich reconnect post-London and Paris Marathons to unpack two very different journeys to the finish line. From Rich’s mental battle, injury struggles, and reflections on performance, to Andy’s unforgettable experience running London in a full-body Save the Rhino costume, this chat goes deep.

They explore the pressure to prove growth through PBs, the healing power of running, what it means to be truly seen on the course, and why marathons are never just about the time on the clock. Expect vulnerability, laughter, and some very real talk about ego, gratitude, and why this sport continues to change lives.

Whether you're training for your first race or chasing your next PB, this one’s for anyone who’s ever toed the line and wondered what’s really fuelling their fire.

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