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ChatEDU: AI in Education

ChatEDU: AI in Education

By: Matt Mervis and Dr. Elizabeth Radday
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Welcome to ChatEDU: AI in Education, your go-to podcast for insightful discussions on the intersection of AI and education! Hosted by Matt Mervis, Director of Skills21 and AI Strategy at EdAdvance, and Dr. Elizabeth Radday, Director of Research & Innovation, this podcast explores the dynamic landscape of education technology.Matt Mervis and Dr. Elizabeth Radday
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  • College Degrees to Beat the Bot | Ep. 67
    Jul 18 2025

    In this episode of ChatEDU (College Degrees to Beat the Bot), Matt and Liz kick things off with a voice AI agent for small businesses (including Liz’s very own Studio 217) and trippy new uses for chatbots. From there, they dig into the fast-moving world of robotics, sharing stories of clumsy soccer-playing humanoids, robot warehouse takeovers, and AI-assisted classroom companions. Then, they go Beneath the Surface with a deep dive on seven college majors that may just “beat the bot” — plus an acronym from MIT you’ll actually want to remember. Finally, this week’s Bright Byte delivers a surprising (and heartwarming) AI breakthrough in infertility treatment.



    Story #1 — Tsunami of Early-Summer AI Stories

    Matt and Liz cover a load of stories in the AI news including prompt injection in academic papers, reports from ISTE, and reported big K-12 AI investments.



    Story #2 — Robots on the Rampage

    Humanoid robots fall down (a lot) in 3-on-3 soccer matches. Amazon’s warehouse bots are on the rise, and on track to outnumber human workers. Misty II charms students in special education, and Hugging Face releases a DIY robot you can program yourself. It’s fun, freaky… and definitely closer than you think.



    Story #3 (Beneath the Surface) — College Majors that Beat the Bot

    Cognitive science, bioinformatics, creative tech, and more. Forbes calls these “AI-durable” degrees that blend human creativity, ethics, and empathy with AI savvy. Matt and Liz also explore MIT’s EPOCH framework for future-proof skills: Empathy, Presence, Opinion, Creativity, Hope. Whether you’re advising students or thinking about your own next move, this one’s worth the listen.



    Bright ByteAfter 18 years of infertility, AI called STAR (Sperm Tracking and Recovery) helped a couple conceive by finding viable sperm human eyes missed, no invasive surgery required. Sometimes AI really is a miracle worker.



    Links and References


    11 Labs AI Voice Agent Tool

    https://elevenlabs.io/app/talk-to?agent_id=agent_01jzxnd7e5fsv9cvve4g6np8v7


    Hugging Face Reachy Mini Robot

    https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/09/hugging-face-opens-up-orders-for-its-reachy-mini-desktop-robots/


    ISTE AI in Education Highlights

    https://www.edweek.org/technology/can-ai-make-history-class-more-fun-for-students/2025/07


    OpenAI, Anthropic and Microsoft Invest in AI/K-12

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/danfitzpatrick/2025/07/08/microsoft-openai--anthropic-fund-a-national-ai-academy-for-teachers/


    Japan Times on AI Peer Review Hacks

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/07/04/japan/ai-research-prompt-injection/


    3 v 3 Robot Soccer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPL7sK0pJOE


    Amazon Scales Robots

    https://unionrayo.com/en/amazon-new-autonomous-robots/


    Misty II

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/danfitzpatrick/2025/07/07/how-an-ai-robot-helped-silent-kids-speak/


    Forbes: College Majors to Beat the Bot

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhernholm/2025/06/30/7-college-majors-that-prepare-you-to-lead-in-an-ai-driven-economy/


    MIT EPOCH Framework on Human Capabilities

    https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/these-human-capabilities-complement-ais-shortcomings


    CNN on STAR AI and Infertility Breakthrough

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/03/health/ai-male-infertility-sperm-wellness



    Sponsor

    This episode is supported in part by the National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing — nextgenmfg.org

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    54 mins
  • Viral or Villain - Is the AI Backlash Just Beginning? | Ep.66
    Jul 11 2025

    In this episode of ChatEDU (Viral or Villain - Is the AI Backlash Just Beginning?), Matt and Liz open with travel updates from Liz’s time at ISTE/ASCD, shoutouts to listeners met on the road, and a quick prompt hack before diving into three big stories shaping the tension between AI’s rapid adoption in schools and growing backlash in society. From AI-powered literacy tools to global assessment changes and the tension between usage and resistance, this episode explores what happens when AI goes viral, and when the backlash begins.



    Story #1: Amira’s AI Literacy Screening in Newark


    Newark Public Schools is rolling out Amira, an AI-powered literacy screener assessing K-3 students by listening to them read aloud. The tool helps identify fluency challenges and personalizes interventions while emphasizing augmentation, not replacement, of teachers. While promising for early literacy, experts highlight the need for human oversight, particularly for English learners, to ensure equitable outcomes.



    Story #2: PISA Adds AI Literacy to Global Assessments


    The OECD’s PISA assessment will add a Media and AI Literacy domain in 2029 to measure students’ critical thinking, ethical reasoning, and ability to navigate misinformation in an AI-mediated world. Using simulations of search engines, social media feeds, and chatbot interactions, this marks a major shift in what global assessments will value, preparing systems to measure skills relevant to the digital age.



    Story #3 (Beneath the Surface): The Walton Study, Wired, and the Growing AI Backlash


    A new Walton Family Foundation survey with Gallup shows teachers are saving nearly six weeks a year using AI while improving lesson quality and work-life balance. Meanwhile, 97% of Gen Z students are using AI for homework, test prep, and college essays. Yet, a rising backlash is building outside schools as concerns over automation, environmental impact, and copyright issues grow. Matt and Liz discuss what leaders should do to pair intentional AI adoption with policy, dialogue, and equity to navigate the coming tension.



    Bright Byte: Microsoft’s MAI-DXO Diagnoses Faster and Cheaper


    In healthcare, Microsoft’s MAI-DXO has diagnosed 85% of complex medical cases accurately while lowering costs by reducing unnecessary testing. This signals how AI can streamline diagnostics, save money, and improve care, if implemented with thoughtful clinical validation.



    Links and References


    Amira Literacy Screening (Chalkbeat + NJ.com)

    https://www.nj.com/mosaic/2025/06/newark-launches-ai-tool-to-boost-literacy-for-struggling-students.html


    PISA Media & AI Literacy Domain – OECD Announcement

    https://www.oecd.org/en/about/projects/pisa-2029-media-and-artificial-intelligence-literacy.html


    Walton/Gallup AI Survey – Teach for Tomorrow Report

    https://www.gallup.com/analytics/659819/k-12-teacher-research.aspx


    Wired on AI Backlash – Reese Rogers, June 28

    https://www.wired.com/story/generative-ai-backlash/


    Microsoft MAI-DXO Diagnostic Orchestrator

    https://microsoft.ai/new/the-path-to-medical-superintelligence/


    Skills21 AI Resources and Policy Samples

    skills21.org/ai/resources



    Sponsor: National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing

    nextgenmfg.org

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    57 mins
  • Check Please: Is Your AI Paying Off? | Ep.65
    Jul 4 2025

    In this episode of ChatEDU (Check Please: Is Your AI Paying Off?) Matt and Jonathan open with updates about Liz’s at ISTE/ASCD. From there, they tackle a practical and philosophical look at AI’s rapid growth, job impacts, classroom adoption, and hidden trade-offs as leaders rethink what to automate. The episode closes with a bright byte on how AI is helping India map heat risks, proving that machine learning can drive real-world climate adaptation.



    Story #1: The AI Resume Arms Race


    Matt and Jonathan unpack a recent New York Times piece on how employers are overwhelmed by a flood of AI-generated resumes, while companies fight back with AI-powered screening tools. It’s an HR arms race with clear parallels to the college essay challenge, forcing educators and employers alike to rethink what authentic assessment and hiring should look like in the age of generative AI.



    Story #2: What Gets Measured Gets Automated


    Pulling from a Harvard Business Review analysis, Matt and Jonathan explore which tasks AI will automate first, from grading quizzes to lesson planning to even attendance tracking via facial recognition. They discuss where AI makes sense, where human judgment is still essential, and how this ties into deeper conversations about what education is truly for in an AI-saturated world.



    Story #3 (Beneath the Surface): Is Your AI Actually Adding Value?


    Going deeper, they highlight an HBR “AI Value Audit” to help educators and leaders assess when using AI saves time versus when it erodes critical learning, skill development, and human connection. They apply this audit live, pulling real tasks from ChatGPT histories and discussing which uses genuinely amplify their work—and which risk making things shallower.



    Bright Byte: India Uses AI to Map Heat Risks


    India is now using AI and satellite data to map heat vulnerability building-by-building across major cities. This lets communities target interventions like cool roofs and green spaces, helping residents adapt to extreme heat events made worse by climate change. It’s a crisp example of how AI can drive practical climate resilience at scale.



    Announcements


    The Summer Micro-Credential is still open, with a special ISTE/ASCD promo for attendees. skills21.org/ai/micro



    Links and References


    Anthropic’s Claudius Experiment

    https://time.com/7298088/claude-anthropic-shop-ai-jobs/


    NYT on AI and Hiring

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/27/technology/ai-spending-openai-amazon-meta.html


    Harvard Business Review: What Gets Measured Gets Automated

    https://hbr.org/2025/06/what-gets-measured-ai-will-automate


    Harvard Business Review: Audit Your AI Use

    https://hbr.org/2025/06/recalculating-the-costs-and-benefits-of-gen-ai


    India Heat Mapping with AI

    https://www.wired.com/story/india-is-using-ai-and-satellites-to-map-urban-heat-vulnerability-down-to-the-building-level/?utm_source=chatgpt.com.


    Sponsor


    This episode is supported in part by the National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing

    www.nextgenmfg.org

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    1 hr and 4 mins

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