Episodes

  • Integrated Circuits: Colin Potter, ICR and the Cassette Network
    Dec 23 2025

    Emerging from the same late-1970s underground that fuelled punk, DIY cassette culture, and European electronic experimentation, we explore the influence of Colin Potter - sound artist, producer, and founder of Integrated Circuit Records (ICR)

    From beginnings building crude oscillators and fuzz boxes to university access to an EMS Synthi A, his path reflects a generation discovering sound through curiosity rather than convention.

    We track the growth of ICR from a mail-order cassette operation into one of the UK’s most important underground labels of the early 1980s. Starting with cooperative compilation LPs and cassettes, Potter helped connect artists working across abstract electronics, industrial, cosmic music, and experimental sound - including The Instant Automatons, The Legendary Pink Dots, Carl Matthews, The Door and The Window, and many others.

    We hear how Potter’s cassette duplication service became a crucial infrastructure for labels such as Third Mind Tapes. That practical role also led to deeper artistic collaborations, most notably with Nurse With Wound, Current 93, and Steven Stapleton, where Potter’s studio became a space that hosted creative risk, sonic transformation, and unconventional production.

    Featuring contributions from Colin Potter, Jonathan Colclough, Gary Levermore, Mark Lancaster, this episode examines how technical generosity, and openness to experimentation helped shape the 45 years of underground electronic music released on ICR.

    Hosted by Martin Franklin.
    Theme music “This Is Concrete” by The Happy Citizen

    VIDEO
    You can find videos of some of the amazing fanzines and cassette releases that drop through our letterbox on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@CassetteCulturePodcast

    IN THIS EPISODE

    VOICES
    Martin Franklin
    Jerry Kranitz
    Colin Potter
    Jonathan Coleclough
    Mark Lancaster
    Gary Levermore

    MUSIC

    “Off The Graph” Colin Potter, The Ghost Office, Mirage
    “We Are So Glad” Colin Potter, We Couldn’t Agree On a Title, (IRC001)
    “The No. 1 Entertainer” The Door & The Window, Weird Noise E.P. (FO Records FEP001)
    “Invertebrates” The Instant automatons, We Couldn’t Agree On A Title, LP (IRC001)
    “Sentimental” Those Little Aliens, We Couldn’t Agree On a Title, LP (IRC001)
    “Ismalla” Those Little Aliens, Flowmotion, (ICR 003)
    “Power” Colin Potter, The Scythe, (ICR002)
    “Harmless Thought” Carl Matthews, Integration, (ICR 012)
    “One Million Blades Of Grass” Colin Potter, Visions, (Third Mind Tapes TMT009)
    “The Self Sufficient Sexual Shoe” Nurse With Wound, Rock n Roll Station, (United Dairies)
    “As Above, So Below” Carl Matthews, Flowmotion compilation, (ICR 003)


    Many thanks to Jonny Zhivago and the invaluable resource for underground music that is Die Or DIY (https://dieordiy2.blogspot.com/)

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    28 mins
  • Deleted Records & The Instant Automatons
    Nov 27 2025

    Underneath the safety pins, television expletives and bondage trousers that came with Punk in 1977, there was a coded message for those ready to hear it. Resolutely independent, the Instant Automatons and their label Deleted Records tuned in from the North of England and got that message of DIY independence, creativity and confidence that followed "Here's Three Chords, Now Form A Band".

    We trace the birth of the UK cassette underground - from isolated bedrooms to West London squats, from hand-dubbed tapes to Rough Trade shelves. It’s the story of how a handful of young people, with almost no resources, built a national community through shared idealism, cheap technology, and an unstoppable desire to create.

    Finding their tribe with the Labroke Grove hippie-punks circulating around the Here & Now/Frestonia/free festival scene and building their community under the Westway.

    Here & Now drummer, Kif Kif Le Batteur made his sentiment about the established record industry clear when he named his cassette label F.O. Records. Recognising that the Instant Automatons and their label Deleted Records got it too, they connected to collaborate on cassette and vinyl releases, gigs and tours. And in doing, forged a template that was adopted and amplified from there on.

    Hosted by Martin Franklin.
    Theme music “This Is Concrete” by The Happy Citizen/"Hesatative" Jack Hertz

    VIDEO
    You can find videos of some of the amazing fanzines and cassette releases that drop through our letterbox on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@CassetteCulturePodcast

    IN THIS EPISODE

    VOICES
    Martin Franklin
    Jerry Kranitz
    Mark Lancaster
    Colin Potter
    Jonathan Barnett
    …and John Peel

    MUSIC
    Duo Electronica (except), Deleted Funtime (Deleted 009)
    The Instant Automatons “ Routine Habit” We Couldn’t Agree On A Title (Integrated Circuit Records ICR 001)
    Colin Potter “The Last Train” The Scythe (ICR)
    The Instant Automatons “Scared To Be Alone” Peter Paints His Fence EP (Deleted)
    Instant Automatons “Too Big” Not So Deep As A Well (Waterden WDCD002)
    Danny & The Dressmakers “God Puts A Stop To The Silver Paper Monster” 39 Golden Grates (Fuck Off Records)

    Archive audio: “Johns Vacuum Cleaner” John Peel Show 17 June 1980, BBC Radio 1

    “Pre Natal Counselling” The Midnight Circus
    “Chemical Solutions” Missing Persons,
    “Disillusion” The Instant Automatons
    “Journey To The West” The Mystic Umbrellas
    All from the Deleted Funtime compilation (Deleted 009)

    Many thanks to Jonny Zhivago and the invaluable resource for underground music that is Die Or DIY (https://dieordiy2.blogspot.com/)

    PROTAG
    We would like to dedicate this episode to the memory of Martin "Protag" Neish, who passed away in February 2014. We were too late to meet him, but found his footprints through some of the episodes in this season of Cassette Culture. We are proud to be able to tell at least a small part of his story.
    (https://louderthanwar.com/northern-punk-scene-mourns-martin-protag-neish/ )

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    Cassette Culture is produced by Martin Franklin for East Coast Studio (https://eastcoaststudio.com.au)

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    28 mins
  • Season 2 - DIY Revolution: Owning The Means Of Production
    Nov 9 2025

    The artists who made the template - In Season 2 we’re delving into the very origins of the underground cassette music scene from the late 70s and early 80s, featuring insights from key musicians who revolutionised independent music production.

    "We didn't think much of the establishment and capitalism, instead of demonstrating against it, we thought we'd create another world which existed outside of it." Jonathan Barnett of Fuck Off Records encapsulates the revolutionary mindset of the post-Punk movement.

    Mark Lancaster, Phillip Sanderson, Jonathan Barnett, Colin Potter and others share their experiences of challenging the mainstream music industry through a low key yet radical DIY approach. Snatch Tapes, Fuck Off Records, Deleted Records, Integrated Circuit Records were all part of the wave that shaped a template for what was to come.

    The narrative explores how musicians rejected traditional music production methods, creating an alternative world of sound and creativity. Cassettes emerged as a powerful medium of expression, offering an affordable and accessible way for artists to record and distribute their music. The episode highlights the punk-inspired ethos of independent music creation, emphasising a spirit of rebellion against established structures and the building of a community.

    Listeners will discover a fascinating network of musicians who connected through fanzines, music papers, and tape exchanges. The collaborative culture transcended traditional genre boundaries, with artists supporting each other's experimental sounds and independent productions. Phillip Sanderson's innovative approach of dismantling radios to create electronic noises exemplifies the creative spirit of the cassette culture.

    The documentary provides a deep dive into a pivotal moment in music history, showcasing how independent artists used technology and collaboration to challenge the traditional music industry. It's a testament to creativity, DIY spirit, and the power of grassroots music production.

    Technical Details:
    Format: Audio documentary
    Focus: Independent music scene, DIY music production
    Era: Late 1970s to early 1980s

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    5 mins
  • Checkpoint Staalplaat: Revisiting Radical Sound, with Geert-jan Hobijn
    Aug 28 2025

    From vinyl to cassettes and the occasional... flexi-postcard! Geert-Jan Hobijn reflects on Staalplaat’s origins as a cassette label, and some current releases.

    In this special interim episode of Cassette Culture, Martin Franklin and Jerry Kranitz speak with Geert-Jan Hobijn, the legendary founder of Staalplaat - the experimental music label that began in an Amsterdam squat in 1982 and went on to define an era of radical sound and design.

    We focus on some current activities publishing unreleased Muslimgauze recordings, reissuing classics from the Korm Plastics label - and dreaming up outlandish packaging ideas (including a cassette release that came with a pair of custom-designed socks).

    The conversation also touches on the challenges and joys of running a label across decades, the crossover between Staalplaat’s releases and Geert-Jan’s own Staalplaat Sound System installation work, and the philosophy of making music and art available in ways that resist the digital mainstream.

    Hosted by Martin Franklin & Jerry Kranitz.
    Theme music “This Is Concrete” by The Happy Citizen/"Hesatative" Jack Hertz

    VIDEO
    You can find video of some of the fanzines and cassette releases we discuss in this episode on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@CassetteCulturePodcast

    MUSIC
    "Headphonics (VPRO Version)" Ryoji Ikeda, Mort Aux Vaches (Staalplaat, 2020)
    "Zealot" Muslimgauze (flexi-postcard 2025)
    "A1" Muslimgauze, Tape 13 (cassette 2025)
    "Live At The Clocktower, New York City (27 April 89)" Arcane Device, SIX (Korm Plastics D, cassette 2025)

    LINKS
    Staalplaat Label
    https://staalplaatlabel.bandcamp.com/

    Muslimgauze
    https://muslimgauze.bandcamp.com/

    Korm Plastics D
    https://kormplasticsd.bandcamp.com/

    Cassette Culture is produced by Martin Franklin for East Coast Studio (https://eastcoaststudio.com.au)

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    24 mins
  • Copy This Mix
    Aug 8 2025

    Music mix by Joshua James Amberson drawing on cassette releases reviewed in issue #3 of the Copy This Cassette zine.

    Joshua is publisher of the Basic Paper Airplane zine, and curator of the Antiquated Future store/distro and label. He is based in Portland, Oregon, USA.

    Theme music "Hesatative" Jack Hertz

    VIDEO
    You can find video of some of the fanzines and cassette releases in this episode on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@CassetteCulturePodcast

    LINKS
    Joshua James Amberson/Antiquated Future (https://www.antiquatedfuture.com/)
    Copy This Cassette (https://copythis.bandcamp.com/)

    MUSIC
    Other Worlders "Hidden Energy Positive Light" Aural Canyon
    https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/hidden-energy-positive-light

    Machine Go Boom "When We're Ghosts" Just Because Records
    https://justbecauserecords.bandcamp.com/album/when-were-ghosts

    Zeiss Ikon "Cybernetic Anarchy" 2025 Reissue, Magrit Records
    https://zeissikon.bandcamp.com/album/cybernetic-anarchy

    Big Fat Head "BoBo Rising" Clean Demon Records
    https://cleandemonrecords.bandcamp.com/album/bobo-rising

    Charles Rice Goff III "Language For Unstated Thoughts" Taped Rugs
    https://archive.org/details/LanguageForUnstatedThoughts/

    Cody Brant - Carl Kruger "Smoke Detail" Copy This 2025
    https://codybrantcarlkruger.bandcamp.com/album/smoke-detail

    Yaara Valey "our liberation is" Antiquated Futures
    https://antiquatedfuture.bandcamp.com/album/our-liberation-is

    Guidon Bear "Internal Systems" Antiquated Future
    https://antiquatedfuture.bandcamp.com/album/internal-systems

    THANKS
    Immense thanks to Joshua James Amberson for curating this mix,
    (https://www.antiquatedfuture.com/) and to the artists for use of their tracks.

    Produced by Martin Franklin for East Coast Studio (https://eastcoaststudio.com.au)

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    26 mins
  • Inside the Zine: Copy This Cassette with Blake Werts
    Jul 24 2025

    From the worlds of mini-comix to independent music, D. Blake Werts is the creative force behind the fanzine, Copy This Cassette.

    Martin Franklin and co-host Jerry Kranitz sit down with Blake to share the surprising story of how he discovered cassette culture only a few years ago, and how that discovery inspired him to launch a new publication devoted entirely to underground cassette releases.

    He explains the philosophy behind Copy This Cassette, including its tactile, analogue-first ethos and the importance of short, descriptive "snapshot reviews."

    We also learn about Blake's deep roots in the world of mini comics, how he taps into regional cassette scenes from the Pacific Northwest to Europe, and the editorial decisions that keep the zine focused and accessible.

    You can find Copy This on Bandcamp at copythis.bandcamp.com and catch our unboxing video of issue 3 on the Cassette Culture Podcast YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/@CassetteCulturePodcast

    Keep updated on the Second Edition of "Cassette Culture: Homemade Music and the Creative Spirit in the Pre-Internet Age" by contacting Jerry. jerrykranitzwriter.com/

    Hosted by Martin Franklin & Jerry Kranitz.
    Theme music “This Is Concrete” by The Happy Citizen/"Hesatative" Jack Hertz

    VIDEO
    You can find video of some of the fanzines and cassette releases we discuss in this episode on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@CassetteCulturePodcast

    MUSIC
    ”Step On Me” Hydrone - Live at Nelsonville 2022 (Clean Demon Records)
    “n-0”, Kozo Inada, Kozo Inada & Frans de Waard (temporary mountain)
    “Post Surgical Blues” Versioning, Cloud Plateau (Ingrown Records)
    “Alamogordo” FUZZ UNLIMITED, Journey To The Seventh Planet (Illuminated Paths)
    “Hippie” Versioning, Cloud Plateau (Ingrown Records)
    “Under Garbage” Cody Brant - Carl Kruger, Smoke Detail (Copy This)

    LINKS
    Copy This
    https://copythis.bandcamp.com/

    Clean Demon Records
    https://cleandemonrecords.bandcamp.com/album/live-at-nelsonville-2022

    temporary mountain
    temporarymountain.bandcamp.com/

    Ingrown Records
    ingrown.bandcamp.com/

    Illuminated Paths
    illuminatedpaths.bandcamp.com/

    Basic Paper Airplane
    www.antiquatedfuture.com/zines/basic-paper-airplane-13-the-cassette-tape-issue/

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    29 mins
  • Underground Goes Overground: Freakbeat, & Planet Dog
    Jun 13 2025

    3D glasses at the ready, we speak with Richard Allen, editor of psychedelic magazine Freakbeat, founder of Delerium Records, and Michael Dog of Club Dog, Megadog and Planet Dog Records.

    Together, they helped define an era of fanzines, home-recorded cassettes, underground parties, and independent music distribution.

    This episode, we’re hearing the inside story of a telephone call to Timothy Leary, the artists behind Freakbeat’s unique 3d page design, Club Dog’s rare live cassette releases and the birth of Planet Dog Record’s legendary electronic compilations like Feed Your Head.

    This episode closes Season One of Cassette Culture—but don’t worry, Season Two is already in production. We’re working on a Bandcamp subscription offer that will give you some exclusive custom cassettes and provide a means to donate to help us keep the reels turning with the podcast.

    Hosted by Martin Franklin.
    Theme music: “This Is Concrete” by The Happy Citizen/"Hesatative" Jack Hertz.

    VIDEO
    You can find video of some of the fanzines and cassette releases we discuss in this episode on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@CassetteCulturePodcast

    FEATURING:

    Richard Allen
    Michael Dog

    MUSIC

    “Operation Apricot” Ring, O De Dun Dun (Self released cassette)
    “What Do You Turn On When You Turn On” Timothy Leary, You Can Be Anyone This Time Around

    From Psychedelic Psauna (Delerium Records):
    “Black Ferris Wheel” The Coloured Plank,
    “Mind Train Jam” Sun Dial,
    “Erp Riff ’83” Ozric Tentacles

    “Nothing Can Stop Us Now” Webcore, The Great Unfolding (A Real Kavoom)“
    Nodens Ictus, Live At Club Dog (Woof Distribution)
    “Medicine Wheel” Eat Static, Prepare Your Spirit (self released cassette)
    “Nightmare” Treatment, Psychedelic Psauna (Delerium Records)

    LINKS

    Planet Dog Records http://www.planetdogrecords.com/
    Club Dog Memories https://www.pooterland.com/looking_glass_dead_dog.html

    Delerium: https://www.discogs.com/label/3338-Delerium-Records

    AVAILABLE NOW
    "Premonitions: Underground Cassette Network 1989 - 90" SoundImage Tapes cassette reissue, Infinite Expanse, 2024
    https://infiniteexpanse.bandcamp.com

    *Cassette Culture* is produced by Martin Franklin for East Coast Studio. (https://eastcoaststudio.com.au)

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    27 mins
  • Third Mind, Fourth Dimension
    May 29 2025
    Armed with fanzines, cassette tapes, and a fierce DIY spirit - two teenagers from Herne Bay helped shape the UK’s underground music scene. In this episode, host Martin Franklin traces the journey of Gary Levermore, founder of Third Mind Records, and Richard “Richo” Johnson, the force behind Grim Humour fanzine and Fourth Dimension Records. From their early days frequenting a local record shop to trading zines and music through the post, their story captures the energy of a grassroots movement that gave voice to some of the most experimental and influential acts of the 1980s. We explore how fanzines like Tone Death and Grim Humour connected a sprawling network of artists and fans, and how this evolved into Third Mind’s legendary cassette compilation “Rising from the Red Sand”—a defining moment for underground electronic and post-industrial music. The episode offers inside perspectives on artists such as Nurse With Wound, Test Dept, Attrition, and Legendary Pink Dots, while also shedding light on the support they received from key tastemakers like Rough Trade, John Peel, and Dave Henderson of Sounds. Along the way, Gary reveals the moment he turned down the newly formed Skinny Puppy, and how that decision—and others—shaped the future of Third Mind and its eventual partnership with Roadrunner Records. Richo discusses the evolving mission of Fourth Dimension and his enduring dedication to artists with a distinct sensibility, both sonically and personally. Passion, persistence, and a love of experimental sound helped two independent labels make their mark on music history—one photocopied zine and dubbed cassette at a time. Hosted by Martin Franklin.Theme music “This Is Concrete” by The Happy Citizen/"Hesatative" Jack Hertz VIDEOYou can find video of some of the fanzines and cassette releases we discuss in this episode on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@CassetteCulturePodcast VOICESRichard “Richo” JohnsonGary LevermoreDave HendersonMartin Bowes MUSIC“Mansonik No 1” Konstruktivists, Psyko-Genetika, Third Mind Records 1983“Song Of The Flame” Tone Death, Rising From the Red Sand Third Mind Tapes 1983“Love Is….” Legendary Pink Dots, Basilisk, Third Mind Tapes 1984“Page After Page” I’m Dead, Grim Humour#3 7” Flexi, Fourth Dimension Records“Gdansk” Test Dept, Rising From The Red Sand, Third Mind Tapes 1983“Onslaught” Attrition, Onslaught, Third Mind Tapes 1983“At Set Points” Ian Boddy, Visions, Third Mind Tapes 1983“Strange Play Of The Mouth” Nurse With Wound, Rising From The Red Sand, Third Mind Tapes 1983“Grow Dark In The Sun” Mummies & Madmen, Winter Hill Recordings 2024“Not Me” Thurston Moore w/Tom Surgal, 10” EP, Fourth Dimension“Film-o-sonik” Konstruktivists, Psyko-Genetika, Third Mind records 1983“Bite My Head” Portion Control, Rising From The Red Sand, Third Mind Tapes 1983 Herne Bay ambient recordings by Damon Hart-Davis used by permission.https://www.earth.org.uk/Herne-Bay-ambient.html LINKS Third Mind Recordshttps://www.discogs.com/label/2746-Third-Mind-Records Fourth Dimension Recordshttps://www.youtube.com/@FDRecords2023fourthdimensionrecords.bigcartel.com Dave Hendersonhttps://23ears.co.uk/ Attritionhttps://attritionuk.bandcamp.com/ THANKS TO:Damon Hart-Davis for capturing the ancestral ambience, Dave Henderson & Martin Bowes for going the extra mile, Alan Rider for this months package. AVAILABLE NOW: The project that started it all."Premonitions: Underground Cassette Network 1989 - 90" SoundImage Tapes cassette reissue, Infinite Expanse, 2024https://infiniteexpanse.bandcamp.com *Cassette Culture* is produced by Martin Franklin for East Coast Studio. (https://eastcoaststudio.com.au) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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    33 mins