What comes after deconstruction? In this episode, I sit down with James McGrath to talk about what it looks like to move beyond tearing faith down and begin the slower, braver work of rebuilding it with honesty, humility, and curiosity. We wrestle with Bible scholarship, doubt, certainty, and why faith that looks like Jesus may require fewer answers and more courage. If you’ve ever felt stuck between what you can no longer believe and what you’re not sure you can believe yet, this conversation is an invitation to keep going.

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Links:

• James' new book: https://amzn.to/3XG2CGE

What if the real spiritual crisis isn’t disagreement, but how we disagree? In this episode, we explore why certainty has replaced curiosity and why faith so often becomes brittle instead of beautiful. We see what happens when winning arguments matters more than loving people. This isn’t a call to “be nicer,” but a challenge to examine how fear shapes our theology and fractures our communities—and whether following Jesus should make us better at holding tension, not worse. This conversation invites you to practice a courage the church desperately needs right now: the courage to differ graciously.

Watch the episode on video: https://youtu.be/X7EQxCRjyyM

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Links:

• Brian's website: https://brianmclaren.net/
• Faith After Doubt: https://amzn.to/4qgymys

What if the faith you inherited isn’t the faith you actually want to keep? In this episode, I sit down with David Hayward—yes, the Naked Pastor himself—to talk about the root systems beneath our beliefs, the fruit they produce in real life, and why so many of us feel torn between what we were handed and what we’re becoming. If you’ve ever wondered whether God can survive your questions… or if your questions might actually be the doorway into something truer… this conversation is going to hit you right where you live.

Watch the episode on video: https://youtu.be/MmrIOoNqD98

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Links:

• www.nakedpastor.com
• www.instagram.com/nakedpastor

What happens when a pastor decides the real mission field isn’t inside the church walls… but somewhere between the pulpit and the pub? In this episode, Gavin Linderman and I dive into the beautifully messy overlap of Anabaptist theology, creativity, and craft beverages. We talk about churches that accidentally turn coffee shops into Christian bookstores with bad espresso, bars that become modern monasteries, and the wild idea that the best conversations about Jesus might happen over a pint rather than in a pew.

Watch the episode on video: https://youtu.be/90M13BPuL4A

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Links:

• www.projectbanquet.com
• www.axiomchurchaz.com
• www.thecreatecommission.org

What if beauty isn’t something we chase, but something that’s been waiting for us all along? In this episode of Cabernet & Pray, we sit down with author and theologian Diana Butler Bass to talk about what it means to truly live a beautiful year. We discuss how joy, grief, and gratitude can all coexist at the same table. We explore what happens when faith stops being a checklist and starts becoming an experience of wonder again.

Watch the episode on video: https://youtu.be/YAd73fCJCoU

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Links:

• Diana's new book: https://amzn.to/3LmL6Er
• Diana's Substack: https://dianabutlerbass.substack.com/

What happens when Christianity gets weaponized for political gain? When culture wars hijack the gospel of love? In this episode, we unpack John Fugelsang's book, Separation of Church and Hate, exploring why following Jesus might actually mean breaking up with some forms of Christianity. Pour a glass, lean in, and let’s talk about what it really means to love God and neighbor in an age of outrage.

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Save your seat for the AZ Tasting Event on October 27th: https://communionwineco.com/events/az-tasting-event/

Links:

• Get John's book: https://amzn.to/4qnnyiD
• John's podcast: https://www.johnfugelsang.com/podcast
• John on Substack: https://johnfugelsang.substack.com/

What if doing the right thing still made you guilty? Dietrich Bonhoeffer believed that following Jesus sometimes meant stepping straight into the mess—into what he called “the fellowship of guilt.” But was he right? In this episode, we grapple with one of the most challenging ethical questions in the Christian narrative: Can faithfulness ever necessitate breaking the rules?

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What happens when Christians start rethinking the very idea of hell? In this episode of Cabernet and Pray, we sit down with Brian Recker to ask the questions many of us were told we weren’t allowed to ask. Is hell really eternal conscious torment? What about annihilation? Could universalism actually be more faithful to Jesus? And how do history, culture, and scripture all play into the pictures we’ve inherited? We pour a glass of wine, get honest about our doubts, and wrestle with what kind of God we actually believe in. If good theology is theology that looks like Jesus, then what does that mean for our view of hell? If you’ve ever felt the tension between fear-based religion and the radical love of Jesus, this conversation might be the permission you’ve been waiting for. Want to find out why so many Christians are hell-bent on rethinking hell? Listen in.

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Links:

• Order Brian's book: Hell Bent
• Brian on Substack
• Brian on Instagram