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CX Files

CX Files

By: Mark Hillary and Peter Ryan
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CX Files features your hosts, CX industry analysts Mark Hillary and Peter Ryan, speaking each week to leading analysts, thinkers, and practitioners focused on managing the Customer Experience (CX). In each episode Mark and Peter talk to their guests about the future of CX, the important trends, and what customers really expect from brands today.(C) IT Decisions and Carnaby Content 2018-2025 Economics Management Management & Leadership
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  • Paul O'Hara - TP - AI Won't End BPO - It'll Supercharge It
    Nov 6 2025

    Paul O'Hara is the Executive Vice President of Business Development at TP EMEA. He is based in the Tyneside area of North-East England.

    Paul recently published an article on Customer Think magazine titled "AI Won't End BPO - It'll Supercharge It."

    Mark called Paul to ask Paul about the article. What was Paul trying to say? How does he believe that AI and human-focused customer service can be blended? How can smarter more value-driven CX be planned using AI?

    Paul outlined many of these ideas in his article, but Mark questioned him further on the reasons he felt the need to talk about AI in this way. Mark even mentioned this conversation with Paul in a SubStack article he published earlier this week.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/pauloharateleperformance/

    https://customerthink.com/ai-wont-end-bpo-itll-supercharge-it/

    https://www.tp.com/

    https://markhillarysp.substack.com/p/ai-in-customer-service-isnt-about

    Summary:

    Mark Hillary and Peter Ryan discuss the impact of AI on Business Process Outsourcing (BPO) with Paul O'Hara, EVP for Business Development at Teleperformance (TP). O'Hara argues that AI will enhance, rather than replace, BPO services. He emphasizes the importance of blending AI with human expertise to deliver smarter, scalable, and value-driven customer experiences. O'Hara highlights that BPOs, with their operational backbone and regulatory compliance, are better positioned to design and scale CX solutions. He predicts continued growth in the BPO industry, driven by automation and ethical outsourcing, and stresses the need for performance-based models over traditional metrics.

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    21 mins
  • Elona Ymeri - Assist Digital - Albania & The Value Of Smaller BPO Locations
    Oct 30 2025

    Elona Ymeri is the service delivery manager at Assist Digital. She is based in Tirana, Albania.

    Elona spoke to Mark Hillary about the role of smaller BPO destinations. What can they offer that is harder to find from the big locations? Is the continued influence of AI and other automation technology reducing the need to consider working in locations where large numbers of agents can be found?

    Elona talked about Albania within this context, but also explored beyond Albania alone to consider other locations in Europe that might have an interesting and innovative new approach to BPO.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/elonaymeri/

    https://assistdigital.com/

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    Summary:

    Mark Hillary and Peter Ryan introduce an interview with Elona Ymeri, the service delivery leader at Assist Digital in Tirana, Albania. Alona highlights Albania's mature BPO sector, employing nearly 30,000 people, and its strategic position as a nearshore option for European companies. She emphasizes Albania's cultural alignment, linguistic skills, and the country's investment in AI and digital transformation. Alona also discusses the shift towards intelligent operations, combining human talent with technology, and the importance of compliance and strategic partnerships in the future of BPO.

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    32 mins
  • Joanne Morrison - Outmarket - Modern Marketing For CX Brands
    Oct 23 2025

    Joanne Morrison is the founder of Outmarket. She is based in Toronto, Canada.

    Outmarket is a specialist marketing agency that is focused on BPO and CX companies.

    Telling potential customers about your services has always been important, but as BPO gets more complex, more international, and AI changes how marketing can function, it is more important than ever to get great advice.

    Peter Ryan called Joanne to talk about these changes and her advice for marketing in CX in the 2020s.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/joanne-morrison-52299711/

    https://www.outmarketbpo.com/

    SUMMARY:

    Mark Hillary and Peter Ryan discuss the challenges and mistakes in BPO marketing with Joanne Morrison, founder of Outmarket. Joanne highlights underinvestment in marketing, with typical BPO budgets being a fraction of the 2-8% recommended for B2B services. She emphasizes the importance of diversifying marketing efforts and leveraging AI beyond content creation. Joanne also stresses the need for effective post-event follow-up and risk-taking to stand out in a competitive market. She advises using AI for backend tasks like coding and research to improve efficiency and differentiation.

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    31 mins
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