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CISO MindMap Podcast

CISO MindMap Podcast

By: Scott Hawk & Rafeeq Rehman
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Featuring Rafeeq Rehman, the creator of the CISO MindMap, each week we discuss topics related to the functions of the Chief Information Security Officer. Topics range from the technology needed for cybersecurity to the key business functions that are critical to the success of the CISO and their teams.

© 2025 Rafeeq Rehman & Scott Hawk (Crimson Consulting, LLC)
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  • CMM 11 - Rationalize & Consolidate Security Tools - Recommendation #3 from the 2025 CISO MindMap
    Apr 20 2025

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    In this episode of the CISO Mind Map Podcast, hosts Scott Hawk and Rafeeq Rehman dive into Recommendation #2 from the 2025 CISO Mind Map: Consolidate and Rationalize Security Tools.The discussion centers around the challenges organizations face with tool overload, the diminishing returns of excessive tools, and strategies to optimize cybersecurity operations.

    Key Takeaways:

    1. The Problem of Tool Overload:
      • Many organizations use dozens of security tools, often leading to inefficiencies, alert fatigue, and fragmented risk views.
      • Excessive tools can consume valuable time for maintenance and configuration instead of focusing on actual security work.
    2. Human Nature and the "Shiny New Thing":
      • The allure of new tools often leads to unnecessary purchases, adding complexity without proportional benefits.
    3. Impact on SOC Operations:
      • Research shows that 73% of SOCs use over 10 tools, while 45% use more than 20. This can result in alert overload and missed threats due to fragmented systems.
    4. Strategies for Managing Security Tools:
      • Ecosystem Approach:
        • Use a single vendor to provide an integrated suite of tools with centralized management and reporting.
        • Benefits: Single pane of glass visibility, streamlined operations.
        • Drawbacks: Vendor lock-in and risks if the vendor faces issues like financial instability or security breaches.
      • Best-of-Breed Approach:
        • Select the best tool for each specific use case from different vendors.
        • Benefits: Access to cutting-edge technology for specific needs.
        • Drawbacks: Siloed data, multiple vendor relationships, and lack of centralized risk visibility. Organizations should prioritize integration and automation to address these challenges.
    5. Recommendations for Tool Optimization:
      • Conduct a basic analysis to identify overlapping functionalities and redundant tools using a use-case matrix.
      • Explore open-source technologies as cost-effective alternatives where appropriate.
      • Ensure tools are properly configured to avoid vulnerabilities that could turn them into liabilities.
    6. Guiding Principle:
      • "No tool should be worth more than the value it brings or the risk it reduces."

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    https://rafeeqrehman.com/
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-a-hawk/
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/rafeeq/

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    29 mins
  • CMM 10 - Securing GenAI, Recommendation #1 from the 2025 CISO MindMap
    Apr 13 2025

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    Is it too soon for another podcast on AI? The gents think not. The first recommendation of the 2025 CISO MindMap is about securing AI and this week’s podcast attempts to go fairly deep into real-world experiences and recommendations. Your hosts try not to assume everyone is tuned in to all the different types, modes and capabilities of AI, so hopefully you’ll find this episode to be basic enough for newcomers and detailed enough to take action.

    In Rafeeq’s blog, he makes several recommendations which are discussed in this episode.

    • Setup standards and governance for GenAI.
    • Research, validate, and approve LLMs (and other AI models) for use within organizations.
    • Define what it means to have a responsible use of AI within an organization.
    • Create a process to review use cases to ensure standards are adhered to.
    • Update vulnerability management and AI application penetration testing processes to cater new needs for GenAI.
    • Train security professionals on how GenAI, LLMs, RAG and Agents actually work.
    • Establish a training and awareness program for IT staff.
    • Explore open source options for GenAI (which are already providing viable solutions).

    References mentioned in this episode.

    https://rafeeqrehman.com/2025/01/11/how-to-use-genai-in-cybersecurity-operations/

    https://rafeeqrehman.com/2024/06/30/run-llm-models-on-a-macbook/



    https://rafeeqrehman.com/
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-a-hawk/
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/rafeeq/

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    34 mins
  • CMM 9 - The 2025 Edition of the CISO MindMap
    Apr 6 2025

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    The lads are excited to be back with a new CISO MindMap Podcast and this episode is extra special. They’re introducing the 2025 Edition of the CISO MindMap, available immediately at Rafeeq’s website. The latest edition makes six recommendations that will be introduced in this episode. Expect to go deeper into each recommendation in the coming weeks.

    This year's recommendations are:

    #1 - it is time for securing genai

    #2 - consolidate and rationalize security tools

    #3 - identify and manage security debt

    #4 - ransomware and cyber resilience

    #5 - create meaningful metrics

    #6 - improve cyber hygiene

    Be sure to subscribe to catch the ongoing discussion and visit Rafeeq’s website for the full CISO MindMap blog and download.

    From Rafeeq’s website:

    The job of a Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) is complex. Many individuals outside the realm of cybersecurity often underestimate the intricacies involved in a security professional’s role. Since its inception in 2012, the CISO MindMap has served as a valuable educational resource, offering insights into CISO responsibilities and aiding security professionals in crafting and enhancing their security programs. Continuously adapting to reflect the evolving landscape of cybersecurity, the CISO MindMap has been updated to accommodate the latest developments in the field. Here is the most recent iteration of the CISO MindMap for 2025, featuring numerous enhancements and fresh recommendations for the next 12-18 months covering the year 2025-26.



    https://rafeeqrehman.com/
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-a-hawk/
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/rafeeq/

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    22 mins

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