Chris Vannini and David Ubben are joined by officiating coordinator Mike Defee, who reveals what it's really like to be a referee, what he wishes fans understood, and his reaction to the "Beef Ref" nickname. The guys also discuss news around the Pac-12, Sacramento State, Thomas Castellanos' trash talk and a lawsuit to watch.

0:00 Intro and dogs
3:45 Pac-12, Sac State, Castellanos, key lawsuit news
18:30 Mike Defee joins the show
23:55 Why refs have to set the tone with players
27:12 The hardest plays to officiate
30:13 Dealing with accusations of bias from fans
34:25 A typical game week for an official
40:39 Should officials talk to media after games, and why holding isn't always called
45:07 What it feels like to get a call wrong
46:23 Is there too much replay review?
50:30 Will CFB move to coach challenges?
52:19 The "Beef Ref" nickname and that national championship game fame
55:24 His max bench press and why he stopped
57:02 The time Mark Richt got really mad at him
1:01:08 Handling abuse from coaches and fans
1:02:23 Why more people need to become officials
1:04:55 Thoughts on the interview
1:09:25 Remember Some Guys

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Chris and Dave are back for a quick show about EA Sports College Football 26 and Dynasty Mode. They both played it in beta and share their experience and reaction to the EA Deep Dive.

Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:55 Early impressions
2:45 Real coaches, new gear and carousel
9:40 Trophy Room
12:10 Scheduling
14:55 Recruiting
23: Leftover thoughts, negativity and who this game is for

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Chris and Dave are back for Part 2, talking about their gameplay experience with College Football 26. They also go through the EA Sports deep dive blog and talk about new features in gameplay, what they like and what they still need to test more. Is EA getting it right?

Timestamps
0:00 Intro
1:58 Early impressions
4:15 Home field advantage
6:18 Playbooks
13:17 Quarterbacks
15:20 Offensive line
16:00 Screens
17:05 Running the ball
17:25 Defense fixes
21:10 Stunts and twists
22:36 Custom zones
27:05 Interceptions
31:00 Substitutions
34:55 Wrap

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In Part 1 of a two-episode day, David is back from Asheville and another College Football Playoff meeting. The Big Ten and SEC are far apart on what they want. What happened and what's next? And how good was the pancake? Then Vanderbilt QB Diego Pavia talks trash about everyone in the Big Ten and also Tennessee. Out of line or all in good fun? The guys also Remember Some Guys and discuss Elite 11 QB names. Stay tuned for Part 2 about EA Sports College Football 26.

David's story from the CFP meeting

Diego Pavia on Bussin with the Boys

Timestamps:
0:00 Intro, reviews and a pancake
7:30 No portal changes yet or Sac State waiver
11:10 What's up with the CFP?
30:50 Diego Pavia calls out everyone
44:15 Remember Some Guys
49:18 Elite 11 Gen Z names

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Chris and David share their most impactful transfers for the 2025 season, touching on Oklahoma, Oregon, Auburn, Louisville, Miami, Colorado and more. They also discuss what's on the docket for the CFP commissioners meeting this week, where David will be.

Timestamps
0:00 Intro, Love Island, David's law school dreams
9:15 CFP meeting preview
20:09 Top impact transfers
56:55 Remember Some Guys
1:02:30 One Last Thing

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Chris and David are audio-only this week. They discuss the concerning health situation around Deion Sanders, the potential move to a single transfer portal window and then answer your questions. Is Kentucky doomed without Vince Marrow? Who will be the Pac-12's 8th football team?

David's story on Deion Sanders

Chris' story on the portal change

Antonio Morales' story on the role of GMs

Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
3:36 Deion Sanders' health update
8:00 Momentum growing for a single portal window
23:36 Is Kentucky doomed?
32:20 Who will get the G5 playoff spot?
36:37 Who will be the Pac-12's 8th football team?
43:13 Why don't the Dakotas join the Mountain West?
47:23 Does the NCAA exist in 10 years?
56:09 Remember some guys
1:00:55 RIP Lillian Vannini, and call your grandparents

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Chris and David explain what the House settlement really means for college football fans and their teams. Then Antonio Morales joins the guys to talk about which teams we want to play with in EA Sports College Football 26.

Justin Williams' story on the House settlement

Teams we want to play in CFB26

Timestamps
0:00 Intro
6:14 What the House settlement means
36:25 Teams we want to play in CFB26
1:09:58 Remember Some Guys

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Chris and David react to anonymous coach gossip about Arch Manning, SEC QBs, Texas Tech's money, Deion Sanders' future, Bill Belichick's time and Michigan's talent. They also talk about new seating at Ohio State that has upset fans and what it says about the sport, plus a New Balance deal for Boston College. They wrap the show by discussing how you put significant others in your phone, and whether the Oklahoma City Thunder can claim the Seattle Supersonics NBA championship.

Reddit AMA

Athlon's SEC anonymous coach gossip

Grace Raynor's story on UNC recruiting

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro, puppies and parenthood nightmares
9:49 Ohio State's new seating and BC's new balance
18:38 Anonymous coach gossip
50:20 How do you put names in your phone contacts?
57:50 Does the Sonics title count for OKC?

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