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BootstrapMD - Physician Entrepreneurs Podcast with Dr. Mike Woo-Ming

BootstrapMD - Physician Entrepreneurs Podcast with Dr. Mike Woo-Ming

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BootstrapMD -A podcast for doctors and physician entrepreneurs who want to learn to increase their financial worth and bring balance to your work life. We discuss building side businesses, investment opportunities, and how to live life on your own terms. Forge your own path, by leveraging your current knowledge to educate others.2018 MWM Holding Economics Hygiene & Healthy Living Leadership Management & Leadership Physical Illness & Disease
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  • EP325: What If Wiping Out Was the Key to Rising Stronger in Medicine?
    Dec 24 2025

    This episode is sponsored by Lightstone DIRECT. Lightstone DIRECT invites you to partner with a $12B AUM real estate institution as you grow your portfolio. Access the same single-asset multifamily and industrial deals Lightstone pursues with its own capital – Lightstone co-invests a minimum of 20% in each deal alongside individual investors like you. You're an institution. Time to invest like one.

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    What if a life-altering accident on the beach redirected your entire career, and a mental health crisis became the catalyst for resilient leadership?

    In this inspiring episode of Bootstrap MD, Dr. Mike Woo-Ming welcomes Dr. Scott Ellner, as he shares his journey from witnessing a roadside trauma that sparked his path to medicine, to practicing in New England, facing burnout and suicidal thoughts, and pivoting to executive roles like leading Integris Health Medical Group. Drawing from surfing metaphors, he discusses mental health stigma, the addiction to identity, finding purpose beyond the OR, and practical tips for physicians navigating pivots, startups, and leadership in chaotic healthcare. Perfect for doctors feeling stuck or seeking nonclinical transitions, this conversation offers hope, transparency, and actionable insights on grit, resilience, and reaching out.

    Three Actionable Takeaways:

    • Embrace Mental Health Openly: Physicians face immense stressors—discuss it like physical health. If you're in crisis (e.g., burnout, cynicism), reflect on purpose: "What intimidates me motivates me." Reach out to a trusted person; a simple "Are you okay?" can save lives, as it did for Scott during a dark night on call.

    • Redefine Purpose Beyond Identity: Don't tie your worth to "surgeon" or "physician"—identity addiction fuels burnout. Pivot by exploring passions (e.g., leadership, startups); spend time journaling or in "executive residencies" to learn business acumen, funding pitches, and health system buy-in for new ventures.

    • Use Surfing as a Leadership Metaphor: Adversity builds grit. Paddle through discomfort like cold water or wetsuits. In healthcare chaos (post-COVID), lead by contributing meaningfully; for pivots, seek VC insights on exit strategies and physician influence (e.g., CMO buy-in) to make ideas stick.

    About the Show:

    Bootstrap MD is the ultimate podcast for physician entrepreneurs looking to escape traditional healthcare and control their financial futures. Hosted by Dr. Mike Woo-Ming, a successful physician, entrepreneur, and investor, the show delivers actionable insights on starting businesses, creating passive income, and navigating healthcare entrepreneurship. Featuring interviews with industry leaders, physicians, and experts in telemedicine and digital health, it's your guide to building a profitable, fulfilling career.

    Tune in weekly at http://bootstrapmd.com

    About the Guest:

    Dr. Scott Ellner is a former general and trauma surgeon, now President of Integris Health Medical Group in Oklahoma City. A leadership strategist and TEDx speaker, he transitioned from clinical practice after a mental health crisis, drawing from surgery, surfing, and executive roles to help physicians combat burnout and lead sustainably. He's the author of Wipe Out, Rise Up: A Practical and Deeply Human Guide to Leadership, Grit, and Redefining Success in Medicine.

    🔗 Connect with Dr. Scott Ellner:

    🌐 Website: www.drscottellner.com

    📘 Book: Wipe Out, Rise Up

    About the Host:

    Dr. Mike Woo-Ming has over 20 years of experience as a physician entrepreneur. He's built and sold multiple seven-figure companies and now leads Executive Medical, a group of clinics specializing in age management and aesthetics. Through BootstrapMD, he mentors physicians in business, content creation, and autonomy.

    Let's Connect: www.https://www.bootstrapmd.com

    Want to start a podcast? Check out the Doctor Podcast Network!

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    25 mins
  • EP324 : Why Physicians Are Co-Investing in $55M Deals with a $12B Real Estate Giant
    Dec 17 2025
    This episode is sponsored by Lightstone DIRECT. Lightstone DIRECT invites you to partner with a $12B AUM real estate institution as you grow your portfolio. Access the same single-asset multifamily and industrial deals Lightstone pursues with its own capital – Lightstone co-invests a minimum of 20% in each deal alongside individual investors like you. You're an institution. Time to invest like one. _____________ This Episode is also sponsored by Ryze Health Every minute counts in medicine—so why waste it on clunky admin work? With Ryze Health, practice management becomes effortless. Our all-in-one platform streamlines scheduling, patient communications, and insurance verification, giving you fewer no-shows, faster check-ins, and happier patients. Free yourself from paperwork and phone tag so you can focus on what truly matters: providing care. Visit http://ryzehealth.com/BootstrapMD today and see how simple running your practice can be. ______________ What if physicians could co-invest in $55M industrial parks alongside a $12B family office without $100K consultants or high-risk leverage? In this insightful episode, Dr. Mike Woo-Ming interviews Jonathan Spitz from Lightstone Direct, the new direct-to-investor arm of 40-year-old powerhouse Lightstone Group. Jonathan shares the firm's vertically integrated model (25K apartments, 12M sq ft industrial, 5K hotel keys), why they commit 20% of their own capital first (5-10x industry norms), and how physicians can diversify beyond stocks or DIY rentals. He breaks down direct vs. passive CRE, asset class pitfalls (office flops vs. industrial wins), and red flags like inexperienced managers or 85% debt. With examples like their Greenville industrial deal, Jonathan proves alignment and conviction drive better outcomes empowering busy doctors to build legacy wealth safely. If you're a high-income physician eyeing real estate for tax efficiency and passive income, this is your guide to investing like institutions without the headaches. Three Actionable Takeaways: Decide direct vs. passive: If time-strapped, skip hands-on rentals for platforms like Lightstone Direct, vet managers on track record, cycles navigated, and skin in game (aim for 20%+). Passive reduces risks like tenant concentration; focus on assets like industrial for steady returns over volatile office or retail. Qualify and evaluate: As accredited (200K/300K income or 1M net worth), request decks/PPMs/operating agreements. Ask: Debt levels? Exit strategies? Risk mitigation? Compare projected IRRs realistically—avoid 20%+ promises tied to high leverage. Prioritize alignment where sponsors invest heavily first for shared incentives. Start the process: Visit lightstonedirect.com or email jspitz@lightstonedirect.com for discovery calls. Define goals (income vs. growth, liquidity horizon). Use a special link lightstone.com/dpn for Bootstrap MD listeners. Early incentives like 6% on parked funds make starting seamless, build long-term partnerships for 3-5 year holds. About the Show: Bootstrap MD is the ultimate podcast for physician entrepreneurs looking to escape traditional healthcare and control their financial futures. Hosted by Dr. Mike Woo-Ming, a successful physician, entrepreneur, and investor, the show delivers actionable insights on starting businesses, creating passive income, and navigating healthcare entrepreneurship. Featuring interviews with industry leaders, physicians, and experts in telemedicine and digital health, it's your guide to building a profitable, fulfilling career. Tune in weekly at http://bootstrapmd.com About the Guest: Jonathan Spitz is the Head of Capital Formation at Lightstone Direct, where he connects individual investors, especially physicians, to institutional-quality real estate opportunities. With over a decade of experience spanning brokerage, lending, and private equity, Jonathan has navigated multiple market cycles and capital-raising environments. He focuses on transparency, education, and aligned incentives, helping professionals understand how private real estate can diversify portfolios, reduce taxes, and build long-term wealth. Website: https://lp.lightstonedirect.com/dpn Email: jspitz@lightstonedirect.com About the Host: Dr. Mike Woo-Ming has over 20 years of experience as a physician entrepreneur. He's built and sold multiple seven-figure companies and now leads Executive Medical, a group of clinics specializing in age management and aesthetics. Through BootstrapMD, he mentors physicians in business, content creation, and autonomy. Let's Connect: www.https://www.bootstrapmd.com Want to start a podcast? Check out the Doctor Podcast Network!
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  • EP323 : Never Split the Difference: The FBI Negotiator's Playbook Every Physician Needs
    Dec 10 2025

    This episode is sponsored by Lightstone DIRECT. Lightstone DIRECT invites you to partner with a $12B AUM real estate institution as you grow your portfolio. Access the same single-asset multifamily and industrial deals Lightstone pursues with its own capital – Lightstone co-invests a minimum of 20% in each deal alongside individual investors like you. You're an institution. Time to invest like one.

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    This Episode is also sponsored by Ryze Health

    Every minute counts in medicine—so why waste it on clunky admin work? With Ryze Health, practice management becomes effortless. Our all-in-one platform streamlines scheduling, patient communications, and insurance verification, giving you fewer no-shows, faster check-ins, and happier patients. Free yourself from paperwork and phone tag so you can focus on what truly matters: providing care. Visit http://ryzehealth.com/BootstrapMD today and see how simple running your practice can be.

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    Host Dr. Mike Woo-Ming breaks down why Chris Voss's Never Split the Difference is the single most important book most physicians will never read in school yet use dozens of times every single shift. From salary negotiations and admin battles to convincing patients to get the CT, these FBI-level tactics will immediately make you more money, save you time, and reduce daily frustration.

    Doctors are brilliant clinicians but notoriously terrible negotiators. We say "yes" to terrible contracts, extra shifts without extra pay, and patients who refuse life-saving care all because no one ever taught us how to negotiate like our life or livelihood depends on it.

    In this rapid-fire Book Club episode, Dr. Mike Woo-Ming distills the core lessons from Chris Voss's bestseller Never Split the Difference and shows exactly how to apply them in real medical life: getting the raise you deserve, pushing back on unpaid admin duties, reading the room with anxious patients, and never again leaving money or sanity on the table. If you only read one negotiation book in your career, make it this one.

    Three Actionable Takeaways:

    • Never make the first offer: Force the other side to name their number first (salary, rate, raise). Respond with "What do you think would be fair?" or "I'm open to any offer you feel is appropriate." Their silence works for you they'll often low-ball themselves or surprise you with more than you expected.

    • Use tactical empathy and labeling: Start every tough conversation with "It sounds like…" or "It seems like you're frustrated that…" You're not agreeing, just naming the emotion. This instantly calms patients, admins, or partners, builds trust, and makes them far more open to your actual request or plan.

    • Turn "No" into your ally: When they say "No" to your raise, extra pay, or patient's refusal of care, respond with "What would need to happen for us to revisit this?" or "How could we make this work?" A "No" protects them; calibrated questions turn it into the real negotiation.

    About the Show:

    Bootstrap MD is the ultimate podcast for physician entrepreneurs looking to escape traditional healthcare and control their financial futures. Hosted by Dr. Mike Woo-Ming, a successful physician, entrepreneur, and investor, the show delivers actionable insights on starting businesses, creating passive income, and navigating healthcare entrepreneurship. Featuring interviews with industry leaders, physicians, and experts in telemedicine and digital health, it's your guide to building a profitable, fulfilling career.

    Tune in weekly at http://bootstrapmd.com

    About the Host:

    Dr. Mike Woo-Ming has over 20 years of experience as a physician entrepreneur. He's built and sold multiple seven-figure companies and now leads Executive Medical, a group of clinics specializing in age management and aesthetics. Through BootstrapMD, he mentors physicians in business, content creation, and autonomy.

    Let's Connect: www.https://www.bootstrapmd.com

    Want to start a podcast? Check out the Doctor Podcast Network!

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    25 mins
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