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Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD

Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD

By: Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford
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 The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand moments. This podcast is to support your work and to take a moment to step away from the daily chaos. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome!© 2025 Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford Economics Management Management & Leadership
Episodes
  • Episode 219: Happiness at Work: The Data Leaders Can’t Ignore

    Episode 219: Happiness at Work: The Data Leaders Can’t Ignore
    Dec 19 2025
    In this episode, Bob ’n Joyce explore key findings from Gallup’s 2025 World Happiness Report. The United States experienced a notable decline, ranking 24th — its lowest position ever. The report highlights how social connection, financial wellbeing, emotional health, and physical wellness all play a critical role in overall happiness. While these findings may not come as a surprise, they should serve as a wake-up call for business leaders and OD practitioners. Unhappy employees don’t just affect morale — they impact business results and workplace culture in very real ways. In the spirit of the season, we focus on what we can do to address chronic unhappiness, drawing directly from insights in the Gallup poll. What emerges are solutions that don’t require big budgets or more time. In fact, small, subtle shifts by leaders — being fully present, asking thoughtful questions, and helping people feel seen and validated — can make a meaningful difference. On a personal level, we invite you, our listeners, to use this holiday season as a moment to pause, look around, and make someone’s day. Kindness is contagious — and when it spreads, it lifts all of us. No better time to begin than now. Come on in, grab a snack. Welcome!
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    24 mins
  • Episode 0: Welcome to the Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD Podcast!

    Episode 0: Welcome to the Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD Podcast!
    Nov 9 2020
    Welcome to the Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD Podcast. Meet us, find our why we are doing this podcast, and what our hope is for you, our listeners. Don't forget to review us on Apple Podcasts, and to check out our Facebook page by searching for bobnjoyce. View more information at www.bobnjoyce.com.
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    2 mins
  • Episode 218: A Practical Way to Read What Your Organization Is Trying to Tell You

    Episode 218: A Practical Way to Read What Your Organization Is Trying to Tell You
    Dec 17 2025
    In today’s episode, Bob ’n Joyce unpack an article Joyce wrote years ago on a powerful OD technique she used to assess organizational wellness. Culture can feel fuzzy and hard to diagnose, but this simple inquiry tool makes it concrete, practical, and actionable for leaders, coaches, and OD practitioners. You’ll hear when this tool is most valuable—such as during a leadership transition, when performance is slipping, or when an organization has lost its competitive edge—and then we walk through the roadmap step by step. Joyce’s Diagnostic Roadmap Includes: Getting a Balcony Perspective 1. What’s causing the distress? 2. What internal contradictions does that distress reveal? 3. What is the history behind those contradictions? 4. What perspectives or interests do I (or others) now represent that may be in conflict? 5. How might we, as a team or organization, be mirroring these broader dynamics? Identifying the Tolerable Range of Distress 6. How do we typically respond to disequilibrium—confusion, conflict, external threats, shifting roles? 7. When in the past has distress escalated to a breaking point? 8. What actions have senior leaders traditionally used to restore equilibrium, and what can I influence now? Patterns of Work and Work Avoidance 9. What work and work-avoidance patterns are showing up? 10. What do these patterns reveal about the real adaptive challenge? 11. What clues do leaders (often unintentionally) provide? 12. Which issues are ripe for action—and which may need ripening? There’s a lot to unwrap (pun fully intended), so settle in, grab a healthy snack, and join us for a lively conversation on diagnosing culture in a way that actually helps organizations heal and grow.
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    19 mins
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