in this episode, host Dan Holmi dives into the growing conversation around the Washington Nationals’ payroll strategy. After years of cautious spending, the Nats face a pivotal moment as young stars like CJ Abrams and MacKenzie Gore emerge as franchise cornerstones. Dan breaks down why new leadership under Paul Toboni insists it’s about process over money — but also why a lack of investment could stall progress in a competitive NL East.

Then, we react to Jim Bowden’s harsh ranking of the Nationals among MLB’s non-playoff teams. Are the Nats really that far away from contending, or is national perception lagging behind the rebuild’s reality? We unpack the state of the farm system, the timeline to contention, and how outside voices could be underestimating Washington’s long-term plan.

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The Washington Nationals wrap up their 2025 season today with Game 162 against the Chicago White Sox at 2:05 pm, closing the book on a year filled with ups and downs. While the final record won’t change with one more game, all eyes are on Miguel Cairo, who may be managing his last contest in D.C. The pitching struggles defined much of the Nationals’ season, but bright spots emerged in the form of CJ Abrams, James Wood, and MacKenzie Gore, giving fans a glimpse of what could be the foundation of the next competitive roster. With new President of Baseball Operations Paul Toboni set to take over this offseason, today’s game feels less like a finish line and more like the beginning of a new chapter for the Washington Nationals.

The focus isn’t just on the field today but also on the future. Daylen Lile’s breakout September has the Nationals fanbase buzzing, showing signs that he could join Wood and Abrams as key offensive building blocks. James Wood was named Player of the Year for the club, while left-handed pitching prospect Alex Clemmey earned Minor League Player of the Year honors, highlighting the progress in Washington’s farm system. As the Nationals head into an offseason of big decisions, their young talent is beginning to shift the narrative from a struggling ballclub to one on the rise. This episode of the Talk Nats Podcast dives into the final game, the breakout performances, and what’s next for the Washington Nationals.

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The Washington Nationals have finalized a major front office move, hiring Paul Toboni as their new head of baseball operations. Toboni, who previously served as a senior executive in the Boston Red Sox front office, brings a strong background in drafting and player development. For the Washington Nationals, this represents a turning point after years of missed draft picks, a shallow farm system, and constant turnover in leadership. His experience building up Boston’s farm system signals a new emphasis on development and scouting in Washington.

The hire comes at a critical time for the Nationals, who have endured six straight losing seasons and are looking to rebuild their organization from the ground up. With no GM currently in place, a vacant scouting director role, and questions about the roster’s future, Toboni will be tasked with reshaping the Nationals both on the field and behind the scenes. From the 2026 draft to future trades and manager hires, this is a reset moment for the Washington Nationals — and the start of the Toboni era.

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The Washington Nationals are once again searching for stability at first base. Luis García Jr. has been taking reps at the position under interim manager Miguel Cairo, even though he’s been the team’s everyday second baseman since 2022. With Nathaniel Lowe designated for assignment and veterans like Josh Bell, Paul DeJong, and Andrés Chaparro filling in, Washington is experimenting to see who might emerge as a long-term option. García’s versatility could increase his value, especially as his defense at second continues to struggle.

Beyond García, the Nationals are testing multiple paths forward. Prospects like Yohandy Morales remain intriguing but inconsistent, while catchers Keibert Ruiz and Riley Adams have each taken practice reps at first. Adams’ August 3 start at the position highlighted Washington’s willingness to get creative to keep his bat in the lineup. With the rebuild in full swing, the Nationals are searching for answers, and the question remains: who’s on first for the Washington Nationals in 2025 and beyond?

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Dylan Crews returns after 3 months & sparks the offense

Nationals DFA Nathaniel Lowe in major roster shakeup

José Tena delivers clutch hit to beat Phillies 3-2

Cole Henry records first career save in emotional moment

Youth movement is ON: Who wins the outfield battle?

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The Washington Nationals snapped their daytime woes with a 4-2 win over the San Francisco Giants, fueled by James Wood’s leadoff homer, back-to-back blasts from Paul DeJong and Josh Bell, and six solid innings from rookie Brad Lord. Despite going just 1-for-11 with runners in scoring position, the Nats held on as new closer José A. Ferrer earned his first save since September.

In other news, Dylan Crews is nearing his MLB return after a strong Triple-A rehab stint, and Cade Cavalli impressed in his first big-league start since 2022, striking out six in 4.1 scoreless innings. The Nationals hope these young players can anchor a brighter future as the season progresses.

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MacKenzie Gore struggled in what may have been his final start with the Washington Nationals, surrendering six runs over 5⅓ innings in a 9–1 loss to the Astros. Despite some signs of improvement, Gore’s second-half ERA ballooned to 10.66, and with trade speculation swirling, his future in D.C. remains uncertain. While Gore admitted the chatter is hard to ignore, he emphasized focusing on his performance and controlling what he can.

Meanwhile, the Nationals leaned fully into their rebuild at the trade deadline, flipping veterans Michael Soroka, Andrew Chafin, Luis García, and Amed Rosario for four minor leaguers, including lefty Jake Eder and infielder Ronny Cruz. These moves reinforce Washington’s long-term plans and reflect their belief in a young core led by CJ Abrams, James Wood, and Brady House. Though the rebuild drags on, the front office’s recent decisions aim to restock the farm and avoid a complete reset.

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The Nationals face a pivotal decision with MacKenzie Gore, their best pitcher and most valuable trade chip. With two more years of team control and a dominant season on the mound, Gore’s trade value is sky-high. Interim GM Mike DeBartolo must weigh whether dealing Gore now — at his peak value — is smarter for a franchise still years away from contention. Given that Gore, like Juan Soto before him, is unlikely to sign long-term, the Nats could follow a familiar pattern: sell high to accelerate the rebuild.

Meanwhile, the team suffered a major blow with top pitching prospect Travis Sykora requiring Tommy John surgery, setting back his development until 2026. It’s another setback for a team already dealing with pitching injuries to Cade Cavalli and Jarlin Susana. Veteran Michael Soroka could be the likeliest player dealt by Thursday’s deadline, and while Gore may stay put for now, the front office’s actions this week will shape the Nationals’ next phase of rebuilding.

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