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Beyond Ordinary Women Podcast

Beyond Ordinary Women Podcast

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 Everyone has influence, which is the basis of leadership. BOW’s bi-weekly episodes are purposed to prepare and empower Christian women for leadership and life. They feature our ministry team and women guests who share from their professional ministry experience. Whatever your calling – influencing your neighbors, coworkers, family, friends, leading small groups – this podcast is for you.© 2024 Beyond Ordinary Women Ministries Christianity Spirituality
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  • For Churches Rethinking Women in Leadership

    For Churches Rethinking Women in Leadership
    Dec 16 2025
    Dr. Sandra Glahn Dr. Lucas Rogers Don't miss this important conversation if you are a leader in your church! Dr. Lucas Rogers shares with Dr. Sandra Glahn what he has learned from his research on conservative churches rethinking women in leadership. His extensive study of churches going through this process provides wise and practical advice for any church leadership considering this issue. Dr. Rogers is available to consult with churches who are interested in being true to the Scriptures while being open to other interpretations. He suggests that it's not where the church ends up, but the process used that will determine the health of the church. Recommended resources Cultural Intelligence: Living for God in a Diverse, Pluralistic World by Darrell Bock The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt Women in the Church’s Ministry: A Test Case from Biblical Interpretation by R.T. France Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood: A Response to Evangelical Feminism from editors John Piper & Wayne Grudem Discovering Biblical Equality: Biblical, Theological, Cultural and Practical Perspectives by Ronald Pierce and Cynthia Westfall This episode is available on video for those who prefer to watch. Timestamps: 00:33 Introductions 02:57 Introduction to Dr. Rogers' research on conservative churches that landed on different sides of the issue 10:23 Various influences on the churches' decisions about this issue 14:08 The approaches to understanding Scripture in the various churches researched 16:20 Best practices to work through this issue 19:12 What Dr. Rogers learned from the three churches studied 26:32 Consulting with churches about the process of considering this issue after this study 28:59 The need to take the time necessary and involve the congregation 32:21 Resources used in this process, sunk costs bias and cultural engagement all affect this process. 35:13 Suggested books on both sides of the issue 38:33 Any other advice to help this process go well? 45:04 BOW resources on other issues facing the church TranscriptKay >> Hi. I'm Kay Daigle. Welcome to the Beyond Ordinary Women Podcast and video. We are so happy that you've joined us today. We have two special guests. We have Dr. Sandra Glahn with us. Welcome Sandi. Sandra >> Glad to be here as always. Kay >> Yeah, it's always a treat to have you. We always look forward to having you. Dr. Glahn is a professor at Dallas Seminary. She is a professor of Media Arts and Worship there. She's written over 20 books. She has so much to say about her that you just need to go to our website and read her bio because she has done a lot and she has produced a lot of work. And you can find her in many of our videos. So hopefully this won't be the last when you watch go on to BeyondOrdinaryWomen.org and search for her name. And you can connect with some of her other conversations that we've had. And Sandra invited another friend to be with us, the third male that we have had on our podcast. And it is Dr. Lucas Rogers. Welcome, Lucas. Lucas >> Thank you so much. Great to be here. Kay >> We are so happy to have you. Lucas is the lead pastor at Easton Bible Church in Hainesport, New Jersey. And he has both a master's and doctorate degrees from Dallas Seminary as well. And we're really happy to have you. And despite the fact that you're only the third man, we really appreciate it. Sandra >> That's true. Lucas >> Well, it's my honor. Kay >> Well, since our ministry is Beyond Ordinary Women, we have tended to focus on women in these conversations. But we're so happy to have you. And I'm going to turn around over to Sandi and Lucas to talk about our topic today, which I'm very excited about. I feel like many, many churches need to hear about the research that Lucas has done. Sandra >> So Lucas has done a hard look at the best practices for churches that are reconsidering wh...
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    47 mins
  • The Beauty of Following the Church Calendar

    The Beauty of Following the Church Calendar
    Dec 2 2025
    Dr. Nika Spaulding Dr. Kay Daigle Dr. Nika Spaulding joins Dr. Kay Daigle once again in this episode on the Church Calendar. If you are unaware of what that is, Nika will help you not only be informed, but also appreciate its beauty and how it can deepen your faith. We are now at the beginning of the church calendar year with the period of time leading up to the coming of Jesus, Advent. Other BOW Resources with Nika on the Church Calendar Why Celebrate Advent? and Why Celebrate Lent? Other resources Study from the Daily Grace Co. Easy Explainer for the calendar Great family devotional book on the calendar This episode is available on video as well. Timestamps: 00:32 Introduction to Nika and the church calendar 14:59 What is Pentecost? Why and how should be celebrate it in the church or even at home if our churches don't? 23:32 What is Ordinary Time? 27:12 So what? Why should we follow the church calendar? 32:34 Recommendations for someone leading in the church in any role 36:26 Resources on this topic TranscriptKay >> I'm Kay Daigle. Welcome to the Beyond Ordinary Women Podcast and video. Today, our guest is Nika Spaulding. Welcome, Nika. Nika >> Thank you. I'm excited to be here. Kay >> We're glad you're here. You know, I was looking at your bio. You sent us a new bio the other day, and it occurred to me that I never really asked you about having a zoology degree from the University of Oklahoma. What is that about? Nika >> Oh, so I will say I was originally pre-med. So while having a zoology degree is incredible, I originally thought I was going to go to med school. And O.U. weirdly doesn't have a biology program. They have a zoology program that feeds into a med school which is so strange because Oklahoma State has a biology program that feeds into a vet school. So it's not I don't know why we're you know, part of the reason why, though, I actually know the real reasons because we had world class scholars in that field at O.U. and we have world class research facilities, so they just kind of combine them. But even though I don't use my degree, I am utterly fascinated by the animal kingdom. And so it was a really fun degree for me to get. And it always surprises people when they find out that's my bachelor's degree. So I joke, though, with that degree, I'm not even qualified to like work at a zoo unless I'm in the gift shop. So I would have to go on to a lot more school. But, you know, there's always time if I decide to go that route. Kay >> Well, I love that. I wasn't sure if you started zoology because you just wanted to go in that direction and then God changed your mind or if there was something else behind it. Nika >> So it's definitely med school. And then to this day, I mean, even when I was a kid, if I saw blood, vomit, anything that doctors see on a routine basis, I get weak in the knees, I get sick to my stomach, I get all of these things. And I really was like, that's okay. I'm going to push through. And so I was on my way to the MCAT in college at O.U. and God was like, you really, you really don't get it, do you? And I finally was like, all right, Lord, what is it you would have me do? So took a hard left into theology. So I don't know anybody who has a zoology/theology degree other than me. I don't know anybody. And so, you know, but that's all right. Maybe there'll be more someday. Kay >> I don't know either. You're just unique. Probably in the whole world. Nika >> Sure. Well, it took me a while to figure out. I should probably follow God, so maybe I'm not unique in that way. I just went a weird route to that, but. Yeah. So it's fun, though. Kay >> Well, that's fun. Well, you also have a master of theology at DTS, and you have a DMin from Northern Seminary. So you have definitely made up for not having some sort of Bible degree, I suppose. Nika >> Yeah. Kay >> at O.U. So we are talking about the church calendar today,
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    40 mins
  • Soul Thirst

    Soul Thirst
    Nov 18 2025
    Gwynne Johnson Kelly Arabie Gwynne Johnson and Kelly Arabie, authors of Soul Thirst: Discerning Your Divine Design, explain how seeking to fulfill our needs in the wrong places harms us and our relationships. They provide a roadmap to enable women to recognize what they are thirsting for in place of the only one who can provide true satisfaction. God alone quenches our soul thirst. This book is a blend of accessible story and biblical life principles that have transformed women around the world as they come to understand God’s design for the human heart. You can also watch this episode on video. Resources: Soul Thirst: Discerning Your Divine Design Website: www.soulthirst.net Podcast Embrace Your Life--a conversation with author Elizabeth Woodson Reimagining Discipleship: A Kingdom Perspective with Kay Daigle & Sharifa Stevens Timestamps: 00:20 Introductions 02:40 Writing Soul Thirst 011:58 What is soul thirst and how does it affect us? 14:55 Thirst, mind, will and emotions are involved 16:10 Thirsts common to many women 18:39 How to best use soul thirst 19:50 A template for thinking about life 22:56 Final words of encouragement TranscriptKay >> Hi. I'm Kay Daigle of Beyond Ordinary Women Ministries. I'm so excited to welcome you to this episode of our podcast and it’s also on video. We are just delighted to have you joining us, and I'm thrilled with our two guests today—Gwynne Johnson, Kelly Arabie. I've known both of them for many years now, and I consider them good friends of mine. Kelly and I actually met at D.T.S., where we were both starting DTS, I think the same semester and went through the same program. Definitely. So I got to know Kelly really well there. And Gwynne and I have crossed paths in many situations. We've been on a couple of boards together, so we've worked together on things. And I really have respected all of her ministry that she has done through the years. If you want to know more about Gwynne and Kelly and their backgrounds, go to our website BeyondOrdinaryWomen.org, and go to the pull down menu that is About Us. And look at Video Podcast Contributors. And you can read more about them, although I think they will probably talk some about some of their experiences as we go through this conversation today. So thank you both for coming. Welcome on our podcast. Gwynne >> Fun to be with you. Kelly >> Yes, thanks for having us. Kay >> Thank you. And you know, I did want to mention Gwynne and I are part of a group of women, and I just want to mention that because to me it's been such a helpful group, all of us who had been involved in ministry for years and we started gathering somebody invited us to gather together at Christmas and we so we started having Christmas luncheons together and we just became good friends and we pray for one another. We support one another and encourage one another and challenge one another. And it's been a great encouragement. So for those of you out there, you don't even have to be leaders, but everybody needs a group like that. So I just wanted to throw that in there too. Today we're talking about Gwynne and Kelly's book Soul Thirst that they co-wrote. And first, I just really kind of wanted to ask Kelly, what was it like to co-write this? How was your process here? Is it hard to do two people doing different things? Kelly >> You know, it was really fun. And I would say being able to collaborate with Gwynne and the conversations that we've had over the years were just such a blessing and a gift. It was a gift that Gwynne invited me to this project. And I'm sure she's going to talk a little bit about, you know, how this started with her ministry. But in 2008 was one of the first times that I think I went through Developing a Discerning Heart. And as part of that, Gwynne came and spoke to our small group, and we just talked about the study and how amazing it had been.
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