Welcome back to Health Unlocked! In this episode, host Jasen Petersen has an eye-opening discussion that peels back the layers, literally, of the immune system. After catching up on alumni volleyball adventures and conference buzz, the conversation dives deep into why the phrase “support the immune system” is dangerously imprecise and how most of us misunderstand what immunity support actually means.

Jasen unpacks the concept of a “layered immune system,” revealing why focusing on specific layers, like the often-overlooked local innate immune system, is key to real healing and resilience, especially in the face of chronic disease. The show also explores the strengths and blind spots of the Integrative Functional Medicine (IFM) model, how precision medicine is (and isn’t) making headway, and practical ways practitioners and listeners can identify which “immune layers” their current strategies are really supporting.

Plus, Jasen shares compelling personal stories and real-world insights, including how tools like Lumen are changing the way we measure metabolic flexibility and support whole-body healing. Whether you’re a health professional or simply curious about what it really takes to unlock lifelong wellness, this episode will change the way you think about integrative medicine, chronic illness, and immune health.

Timestamps:

00:00 "Local Innate Immunity's Importance"

06:12 Systemic Innate Immunity Explained

11:36 Integrative Protocols: Incomplete Solutions

18:38 "ATP: Energy and Signal Dilemma"

26:57 "Prioritizing Local Immune Support"

31:17 Shingles and Immune Response Explained

35:02 Apoptosis vs. Necrosis in Healing

43:51 "Targeting Immune Layers in Medicine"

44:58 Immune System Workouts: Probiotics & Cold Therapy

53:37 "Challenges of Optimizing Chronic Health"

56:52 Metabolic Flexibility and Fasting Insights

01:01:11 "Episode Conclusion & Thanks"

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