Episodes

  • S6E3: Sagas w/ Shawn Crossover: Ireland’s Mythic Invasions – From Noah to the Milesians

    S6E3: Sagas w/ Shawn Crossover: Ireland’s Mythic Invasions – From Noah to the Milesians
    Mar 17 2026
    In this special crossover episode, Shawn brings an installment of his series Tales of Ireland from the podcast Sagas w/ Shawn – Gods and Kings over to Between Two Ravens. Since Ireland hasn’t yet made an appearance on BTR, this felt like the perfect excuse to totaly not "shamelessly" plug his other project.
    In this St. Patrick’s Day episode of Sagas w/ Shawn - Gods and Kings, we dive into one of the most fascinating medieval texts in Irish tradition, the Lebor Gabála Érenn, also known as the Book of Invasions. The text attempts to explain the origins of Ireland and its people by, like every text Shawn has reviewed, weaving together mythology, genealogy, and the biblical worldview of the time, with a bunch of pagan gods the christian writers needed to humanize to fit their worldviewFollowing the narrative arc from Shawn's horrible calculations of the years 2,348 BCE to 1,047 BCE, this episode explores 6 legendary waves of settlers said to have arrived in Ireland, including the mystical Tuatha Dé Danann, their conflicts with the mysterious Fomorians, and the final arrival of the Milesians, who become the legendary ancestors of the Gaelic people. Along the way Shawn discusses how each and every invader (minus 1) is descended from Noah's grandsons, Magog and Gomer.

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    39 mins
  • S6E2 History of Britain (Part 1)

    S6E2 History of Britain (Part 1)
    Feb 16 2026
    S6E2

    David and Shawn are back for the first time since February 2025. We have a bunch of life updates.

    David presents his "explain it like I'm 5" (ELI5) version of the history of the isle of Britain prior to the fall of Rome.

    I want to give credit and encourage you to check out some podcasts that inspired my search to understand the history of England, Wales, and Scotland.

    Welsh History Podcast:
    Episode 4 Bronze Age Metallurgy, Copper and Bronze https://open.spotify.com/episode/4UR4WDVd4QgZlClVbq2CRd
    Episode 12 The Druid Mystery https://open.spotify.com/episode/4SdPAY7I0tWmox2RLgPiKU
    History of England Podcast: https://thehistoryofengland.co.uk/
    The History of Scotland Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/4mt91nR0uaVv547EQqJAaf


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    1 hr and 15 mins
  • S6E1 - A Tale of Merlin

    S6E1 - A Tale of Merlin
    Oct 31 2025
    S6E1

    David kicks off Season 6 with a story of Merlin. Why Merlin you ask? Isn't this a Norse Mythology Podcast? You'll have to listen to the episode to find out.

    David talks about what has been interesting him lately and trying to catch up with Shawn's understanding of Anglo-Saxon history.

    Hey you're reading the episode description. You must really enjoy our content. Do you ever listen all the way to the end of the episode to see if we left any surprises?

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    18 mins
  • S5E21: Volsung Poems: The Last Sons of Gudrun (Part 7 of 7)

    S5E21: Volsung Poems: The Last Sons of Gudrun (Part 7 of 7)
    Aug 25 2025
    S5E21 Volsung Poems: The Last Sons of Gudrun (Part 7)

    The conclusion of this meant to be short series, deep diving into the poems that underlie the Saga of the Volsungs.

    It has been quite a journey. If you have been following along, we have seen how the original sources are flawed. Some missing pages and stanzas. Some seem to be early poems, sometimes rearranged or reconstructed. Some are entirely new constructions at the time of their recording in the 13th century.

    It feels very fitting, this part of the poetic edda ends on what seems to be one of the oldest poems. The Lay of Hamdir.

    When I first read these poems, it was hard to see why this story has anything to do with Sigurd and the Norse Gods. It connects the Volsung clan to another historical legendary king, Ermanaric (Iormurekk), the 6th Century Gothic King in Scythia, before the Hun invasion.

    It seems to be a simple tale, connecting kings and legendary heroes to the gods. It contains a story of gruesome torture. Reflects the pain inflicted on the victims of marriages for political alliances. The fateful families formed by these agreements of men.

    Metaphorically it reflects why the hero has to die. Why does the hero have to die? Why can't he just have a nice retirement for once? I connect the meaning to the totality of Carl Jung's theory of the hero, the heroic ego. Overcoming the unconscious, separating the great mother from the anima. Learning to accept fate and connecting to The Self.

    It is the meaning of this entire journey from the origin of the gods. The destiny and fate of the hero.

    If you want to read more about the meaning I find in this poem and saga, this episode inspired me to write a new cryptic blog post: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/2025/08/15/the-death-of-the-hero/



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    51 mins
  • S5E20: Volsung Poems: Two Poems of Atli (Part 6 of 7)

    S5E20: Volsung Poems: Two Poems of Atli (Part 6 of 7)
    Aug 16 2025
    S5E20 Volsung Poems: Two Poems of Atli (Part 5)

    David continues his series of not so short solo episodes, deep diving into the Poems of the Poetic Edda which inspired the Saga of the Volsungs.
    In this episode:
    The Lay of Atli
    The Greenlandic Lay of Atli

    These poems connect the legends of Atli the Hun, to his wife Gudrun and the poems of Sigurd and his decent from the Norse Gods.

    Atli kills Gudrun's brothers. Some would say to avenge Sigurd and Brunhilde. Others would say to obtain Fafnir's Hoard of Gold. Either way, it is the curse of Andvari's gold, leading to the deaths of generations of fathers and sons.

    We see in these poems the author favors the Giukung family, Gudrun, Hogni and Gunnar. Where previous poems placed them as the betrayers of Sigurd, Sigurd has been mostly forgotten here. Gudrun does grieve the loss of her great love, but she also hangs on to the love of her brothers and the bonds of kinship.

    The Giukung family are Goths, a Germanic Tribe. Sigurd joined their clan. But he betrayed the love of Brunhilde, of the family of Atli and the Huns. Gunnar is too smart to allow the hoard of Fafnir to fall into the hands of the Huns. It is returned to the bottom of the Rhine River. But the curse lives through Gudrun and she sees to the death of her two sons by Atli. In the next and final short, she will be remarried to a third king, and see to the deaths of two more sons.

    The Greenlandic Lay of Atli seems to be a fan fiction. Another take on the same story. The Greenlanders wished to see Gunnar and Hogni as Greenlanders, falling into the same trap of Atli. Blindly trusting fate and the bonds of kindship.



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    51 mins
  • New Podcast Announcement - Sagas w/Shawn - Gods and Kings

    New Podcast Announcement - Sagas w/Shawn - Gods and Kings
    Aug 5 2025
    Shawn has launched a solo podcast: Sagas w/Shawn – Gods and Kings.
    Don't worry, Between Two Ravens is not ending. This new series explores legendary and historical figures from Norse mythology and beyond, tracing the line between gods and kings, myth and history. Sort of like my solo episodes on "historical" figures with more of my stupid voice.
    I'll eventually discuss other world mythologies and may even branch out into fictional worlds as well, like the Elder Scrolls, Legend of Zelda, A Song of Ice and Fire, and Lord of the Rings to name a few. If you've enjoyed the storytelling and research we bring to Between Two Ravens, you’ll feel right at home. Check out Sagas w/Shawn on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

    Sagas w/Shawn - Gods and Kings

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sagaswshawn/
    Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@sagaswshawn
    YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@SagasWithShawn

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    2 mins
  • S5E18: Ragnar Lodbrok VII: The Legacy of Ragnar's Sons

    S5E18: Ragnar Lodbrok VII: The Legacy of Ragnar's Sons
    Apr 28 2025
    In this episode, Shawn and David wrap up the series on Ragnar Lobrok (cue dozens of solo episodes where Shawn and David have not in fact wrapped up their series on Ragnar Lodbrok), discussing chapters 18 - 20. In tandem with "The Tale of Ragnars Sons", you find out about the fates of the sons of Ragnar, including their deaths. There are then a couple of chapters of some nameless characters (well one is named), who in later years begin discussing the the heroic brothers either in their cups while getting drunk, or looking at monuments set to be reminders of them.

    The pair explore the descendents of these heroes, leading to the historical origins of 3 Scandinavian countries, Sweden, Denmark, and Norway, tying together the legendary sagas with historical figures like Gorm the Old, Harald Fairhair, and Eirik the Victorious. There is also an interesting passing of the torch where in 1066 William the Conqueror supposedly dug up the grave of Ivar the Boneless (deciding to burn his body), which may represent the end of Anglo-Saxon England and the Viking Age.

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    1 hr and 14 mins
  • S5E17: Volsung Poems: The Children of Giuki and Budli (Part 5 of 7)

    S5E17: Volsung Poems: The Children of Giuki and Budli (Part 5 of 7)
    Mar 31 2025
    S5E17 Volsung Poems: The Children of Giuki and Budli (Part 5)

    David continues his series of not so short solo episodes, deep diving into the Poems of the Poetic Edda which inspired the Saga of the Volsungs.
    In this episode:
    The Second Poem of Gudrun.
    The Death of the Niflungs.
    Oddrun's Lament.
    These relatively late poems bridge The First Poem of Gudrun to the poems about Atli and the early poem Lay of Hamdir (coming soon).

    The children of Giuki are Gunnar, Hogni, and Gudrun. And as we saw previously, Gudrun has sworn vengance against her brothers for killing her beloved Sigurd.
    The children of Budli are Brynhild, Atli, and Oddrun. These late poems explain that Budli wanted Brynhild to be a single shield maiden. Running her own kingdom and free from a husband. Oddrun was to be married to Gunnar to establish a peace between the clans.
    But Budli is dead, and Atli had other plans (perhaps the wealth of Sigurd threw off the initial plans). He married off Brynhild (likely so his sister would not have a neighboring kingdom to rival his own) and forbid the lovebirds, Gunnar and Oddrun, from marrying.

    We see in this episode how Gudrun wanted to grieve in peace, but the patriarchy, the brothers and parents, want her to reestablish the alliance formed by the marriage of Gunnar and Brynhild.
    My conclusion is that these particular poems are fan fiction. As the Poetic Edda scholar Carolyn Larrington says, these late contructions: "give more justification than seems necessary" for why the families go to war and why Atli kills Gunnar and Hogni. There are some very amusing verbal dueling between Oddrun and another lady of the court, the unwed and pregnant Borgny. A poetic battle conducted while Oddrun begrudgingly serves as her midwife. It finally answers Shawn's question from Season 1 on Havamal. Why should one not trust women serving drinks?




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    34 mins