In this episode, Chris Gabardi and Jess Thuring sit down with Antarctic expedition leader, bestselling author, and international keynote speaker Rachael Robertson to explore what leadership really demands when you’re isolated, under pressure, and unable to step away.

From the legendary “Bacon Wars” to powerful lessons on respect, boundaries, and team dynamics, Rachael shares the real stories and raw insights she gained in Antarctica, the most unforgiving (and unforgettable) leadership classroom on Earth.

More about Rachael:

https://www.rachaelrobertson.com.au/

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Respect Trumps Harmony

Leading on The Edge

CHAPTERS

00:00 — Who Is Rachael Robertson?

02:10 — A Career Built on “Having a Go”

06:50 — Preparing for a Year You Can’t Leave

08:10 — Arriving at the Bottom of the World

10:30 — What Antarctica Is Really About

12:00 — Respect Trumps Harmony

18:00 — Scrutiny of the Leader, Boundaries and Support

24:00 — The Shades of Grey Working in Antarctica

28:00 — Conflict, Consensus and the Hard Lesson of Over-Consultation

30:50 — The Bacon Wars

34:00 — No Triangles: The Tool That Changed Rachael’s Leadership Forever

37:00 — Recovery After Antarctica

39:30 — Lightning Round

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Best Behaviour podcast is recorded on Wurundjeri land, Interchange acknowledges that this always was, and always will be Aboriginal land.

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This week, Interchangers Gabe Harris & Pete Murphy sat down with seriously playful creative strategist, Camey O'Keefe to chat all things play in the workplace.

Camey takes us on her journey from creative suit in agency land to director of Gambol. Camey brings a clear-eyed view on why play is a powerful tool for building high-performing teams, sparking creativity, and strengthening culture.

Together, they explore the everyday habits and behaviours that shape how we work: the language we use, the way we show up, and the invisible rules that hold us back. From Lego to leadership, and even a bit of hide-and-seek, it’s a practical conversation about bringing more lightness (and effectiveness) into the way we lead.

Find Cam:

Gambol

Reading/Listening List:

Primed to Perform - Neel Doshi & Lindsay McGregor

Great Design is Serious Not Solemn - Paula Scher

Playing Big- Tara Mohr

Meditations- Marcus Aurelius

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Best Behaviour podcast is recorded on Wurundjeri land, Interchange acknowledges that this always was, and always will be Aboriginal land.

For more information about Interchange and the work that we do, check out our website, or connect with us on LinkedIn.

In this episode of Best Behaviour, Felix Johnson sits down with Psychologist, Georgia Marasco and Interchange's new General Manager, Pete Murphy, to explore how creativity gives organisations an edge in times of change. Free‑associating their way from change-playbooks to neuroscience to Lego, they reveal how a creative approach makes change not only stick, but spark excitement and momentum across an organisation.

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Best Behaviour podcast is recorded on Wurundjeri land, Interchange acknowledges that this always was, and always will be Aboriginal land.

For more information about Interchange and the work that we do, check out our website, or connect with us on LinkedIn.