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Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

By: Rick Hanson Ph.D. Forrest Hanson
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 Forrest Hanson is joined by clinical psychologist (and his dad) Dr. Rick Hanson and a world-class group of experts to explore the practical science of lasting well-being. Conversations focus on the key insights from psychology, science, and contemplative practice that you need to build reliable inner strengths, overcome your challenges, and get the most out of life. New episodes every Monday.All rights reserved Hygiene & Healthy Living Personal Development Personal Success Psychology Psychology & Mental Health
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  • Recovering from BPD with Mentalization-Based Therapy with Robert Drozek

    Recovering from BPD with Mentalization-Based Therapy with Robert Drozek
    Apr 27 2026
    Have you ever had a friend not text you back, and you’re certain that they’re mad at you? This is often a disruption in the process of mentalization: the ability to recognize that our thoughts and feelings might not be facts. Mentalization is a process we can all struggle with, but it’s particularly important for people who have Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). In this episode, Forrest is joined by psychotherapist and author Robert Drozek to discuss mentalization-based treatment (MBT) and the tools that can help us develop more flexibility and curiosity around our assumptions. Bob outlines the three common modes of mentalizing, explains how childhood experiences shape mentalization, and offers a map for building healthier ways of relating to our thoughts and feelings. About our Guest: Robert Drozak is a clinical social worker, the clinical director of the Mentalization-Based Treatment Clinic at McLean Hospital, and a teaching associate in the Department of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. His new book, Mentalization: Utilizing Reflection to Heal from Borderline Personality Disorder, is the first book about Mentalization-Based Treatment aimed at a general audience. Key Topics: 0:00: Intro: what is mentalization? 5:12: Ways mentalization can go wrong 13:25: Borderline Personality Disorder as a deficit in mentalization 22:13: How mentalization is shaped in childhood 28:54: The alien self 32:23: Developing an MBT formulation 42:03: MBT in the therapy room 54:40: Challenging your beliefs and assumptions 1:11:21: How to get out of pretend mode 1:21:37: Addressing problems with interoception 1:30:00: Recap Support the Podcast: We're on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link. Sponsors Sleep Reset is offering a free 7-day trial, available only at thesleepreset.com/podcast. Start your first week of real, clinician-designed insomnia treatment tonight. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 38 mins
  • Breaking the Habit of Overthinking: Rumination, Cognitive Bypassing, and the Insight Trap

    Breaking the Habit of Overthinking: Rumination, Cognitive Bypassing, and the Insight Trap
    Apr 20 2026
    Why does knowing we overthink not help us stop? Dr. Rick and Forrest discuss why rumination becomes a self-reinforcing habit, and why insight alone rarely helps. They distinguish between rumination and reflection, and talk about how balancing acceptance and agency can help us go from one to the other. Forrest talks about the relationship between overthinking and feelings of disappointment and failure, and Rick shares practical ways to interrupt the cycle, shift into more concrete forms of problem-solving, and finally stop ruminating. Rick's Rumination Course: If rumination is a persistent issue for you, check out Rick’s five-week online course focused on practical tools for letting go of these negative thought loops. Learn more at RickHanson.com/ruminating, and use coupon code BeingWell25 to receive a 25% discount. Previous episodes on rumination and overthinking: Breaking the Self-Awareness Trap: How to Stop Overthinking | Being Well Rumination: How to Disrupt Obsessive Thoughts Key Topics: 0:00: Intro: what is rumination 5:35: Why we ruminate 21:06: Why rumination doesn't help us 25:24: Moving from rumination to reflection 31:35: Rumination as a habit 38:40: Interrupting the rumination habit 46:44: Radical helplessness and radical resourcefulness 53:43: More ways to move from abstract to concrete thinking 1:07:23: The role of mindfulness 1:13:32: Recap Support the Podcast: We're on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link. Sponsors Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/beingwell. Level up your bedding with Quince. Go to Quince.com/BEINGWELL for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 22 mins
  • Trauma Therapy: What It’s Really Like with Dr. Jacob Ham and Elizabeth Ferreira

    Trauma Therapy: What It’s Really Like with Dr. Jacob Ham and Elizabeth Ferreira
    Apr 13 2026
    In this very special episode, Dr. Jacob Ham and associate therapist Elizabeth Ferreira join me to discuss their work as trauma therapists. They talk openly about the messy, unglamorous reality of struggle, mistakes, and repair that characterizes trauma work, its nature as both art and science, how their work has changed over time, and what they’ve learned along the way. Topics include self-disclosure, working with shame and grief, dealing with situations where the client wants an apology, the difference between trauma work and more manualized approaches, therapist training and supervision, and “polishing the mirror.” I loved listening to Dr. Ham and Elizabeth talk during this episode. It’s a truly unique one, and I hope you enjoy it. About our Guest: Dr. Jacob Ham is a clinical psychologist, Associate Clinical Professor at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, and the Director of the Center for Complex Trauma there. He's the clinician featured in Stephanie Foo’s wonderful book What My Bones Know. Key Topics : 0:00: Introduction and nervousness 6:21: The role of disclosure 11:34: Mistakes, rupture, and repair 23:20: Sharing grief 33:04: Supervision and parallel process 36:29: Therapy as an art form 47:52: Structure, flexibility, and 'opening the hand' 52:50: A listener question: how to let it all go 1:02:40: How trauma work changes you 1:07:46: Recap Support the Podcast: We're on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link. SponsorsGo to Zocdoc.com/BEING to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 16 mins
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