Episodes

  • The Double Sentence
    Oct 10 2025

    In this episode of The Backstory on the Shroud of Turin, host Guy R. Powell interviews Italian researcher and author Marco Ginatta, born in Turin and dedicated to the study of the Holy Shroud for decades. Ginatta shares his deeply personal journey from scientist to theologian, inspired by his grandmother’s devotion to the Shroud.

    He introduces his theory of the “double sentence with double penalty,” arguing that Jesus Christ was illegally condemned to both scourging and crucifixion—two punishments attested by the forensic marks on the Shroud of Turin. Ginatta and Powell discuss how the Shroud captures the transition between the material and immaterial—between body and Resurrection.

    Listeners will also learn why the Shroud’s image can only be viewed from a distance, a phenomenon no artist could replicate. Ginatta explains why science must never separate from faith when studying the most sacred artifact of Christian history.

    This conversation invites believers and skeptics alike to reflect on the intersection of physics, theology, and spiritual truth—revealing why the Shroud of Turin remains The Only Witness to the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.

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    32 mins
  • Lost Years of the Shroud
    Oct 8 2025

    In this episode of The Backstory on the Shroud of Turin, host Guy R. Powell welcomes Alessandro Piana, one of Italy’s leading Shroud of Turin scholars. Together they investigate the mysterious “lost years” of the Shroud and expose recent media claims that question its authenticity.

    Piana critically examines the Archeometry article that suggested the Shroud was a medieval bas-relief creation, pointing out scientific omissions such as blood evidence, linen composition, and pollen traces. He then dives into historical letters from Pope Innocent III and accounts from Robert de Clari to trace the Shroud’s path from Constantinople to Athens and finally to France.

    Listeners will learn:

    • Why the Pierre d’Arcis memorandum does not disprove the Shroud’s authenticity

    • How crusader families and Templars may have protected the Shroud for 150 years

    • What documents suggest about the Shroud’s presence in Athens in 1205

    • How the Shroud bridges faith and history as evidence of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ

    This episode unites theology, science, and forensic history—highlighting themes from The Only Witness, Guy Powell’s book on the Shroud of Turin.

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    23 mins
  • Shroud Forgery or Truth?
    Sep 23 2025

    In this episode of The Backstory on the Shroud of Turin, host Guy R. Powell speaks with Finnish researcher Teemu Hartikainen, founder and president of the Finnish Sindonology Society.

    Hartikainen dives into one of the most debated documents in Shroud history: the 1389 memorandum by Bishop Pierre d’Arcis. Long cited as proof that the Shroud of Turin was a medieval forgery, Hartikainen explains why this claim doesn’t hold up.

    Through detailed archival research, he reveals that the so-called “letter” is not a letter at all. Instead, it consists of two unfinished drafts dictated by the bishop. These drafts lack essential elements such as a date, signature, and polished Latin. Far from being official correspondence, they were likely internal notes, never intended for the Pope.

    The episode also explores how later historians manipulated these drafts—adding a date stamp and altering translations—to make them appear as damning evidence against the Shroud. By mixing historical context with linguistic analysis, Hartikainen shows that these edits reshaped the meaning and fueled skepticism.

    Beyond documents, the discussion uncovers the political and economic struggles of the time. With the Black Death devastating Europe and churches competing for pilgrims, the motivation behind d’Arcis’ complaints may have been financial survival rather than truth.

    This thought-provoking conversation challenges long-standing assumptions and raises new questions about authenticity, faith, and history. Whether you approach the Shroud as evidence of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ or as a historical puzzle, Hartikainen’s insights provide clarity.

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    49 mins
  • Shroud Secrets with Bertrand
    Sep 18 2025

    In this episode of The Backstory on the Shroud of Turin, host Guy R. Powell speaks with Jim Bertrand—renowned Shroud evangelist, researcher, and speaker. Together, they unpack key highlights from the 2025 Shroud Conference in St. Louis, where leading international scholars gathered to present new findings.

    Jim shares the blessings of meeting experts, hearing powerful talks, and seeing fibers from the Shroud under microscopes. Among the most fascinating discoveries:

    • Possible coins on the eyes indicated by metal alloy traces.
    • Theories on the three hours of darkness explained by Sahara dust storms.
    • Forensic blood evidence suggesting supernatural preservation.
    • The Sudarium of Oviedo and new perspectives on its link to the Shroud.
    • Microscopic evidence of neutron trails that may confirm the Resurrection event.

    Bertrand explains how these findings connect science, history, and faith, offering believers and skeptics alike a deeper look into the mystery of the Shroud of Turin. He also reflects on the camaraderie among researchers, the role of the Shroud in evangelization, and the timeless truth that “the image on the Shroud is the natural consequence of a supernatural event.”

    Don’t miss this conversation that bridges theology, research, and the enduring mystery of the Resurrection.

    🎥 Click here to view the video: https://youtu.be/GVqFnI1ggLU

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    36 mins
  • Shroud on Trial
    Aug 31 2025

    In this episode of The Backstory on the Shroud of Turin, Guy R. Powell interviews lawyer and Shroud researcher William Red, who applies legal reasoning to the centuries-old mystery of the Shroud.

    William explains how courtroom standards reasonable suspicion, balance of probabilities, and beyond reasonable doubt can be applied to Shroud evidence. He demonstrates why the 1988 Carbon 14 dating, flawed by breaches in protocol and limited sampling, would be inadmissible in court. Instead, he highlights stronger evidence:

    • Pollen unique to Jerusalem
    • Dust samples from crucifixion-related areas
    • Blood serum halos around wounds
    • Forensic details confirming crucifixion practices

    He contrasts absurd theories, like a Da Vinci forgery, against overwhelming corroborative science. Through a legal lens, the evidence tips the scales toward authenticity, pointing to a first-century origin.

    This discussion bridges law, science, and faith, asking: what verdict would you render if you were the juror?

    Whether you’re a believer, skeptic, or curious investigator, William’s perspective reframes the Shroud as more than an artifact—it becomes a witness to the Resurrection.

    Click here to view the video: https://youtu.be/t-YWL2ZmWl0

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    59 mins
  • The Shroud: Evangelism or Artifact?
    Aug 28 2025

    In this episode of The Backstory on the Shroud of Turin, Bob Bird, an expert on the Shroud and longtime researcher, discusses its historical significance. Bird explains how the Shroud may have been more than just a relic—it could have served as a powerful evangelistic tool for early Christians, aiding in spreading the message of Jesus' Resurrection. Bird recounts his first exposure to the Shroud, a key moment in his faith and research journey.

    He critically examines the 1988 Carbon 14 dating, which cast doubt on the Shroud's authenticity, offering a fresh perspective on why those conclusions might have been flawed. He also explores the Shroud's possible journey to Odessa, how early Christian texts reference it, and the mystery of its early history.

    As Bird puts it, “The Shroud is a symbol of Christ’s passion and resurrection, and its history is as intricate as the faith it represents.” Whether you are a believer or skeptic, this episode provides valuable insights into one of Christianity’s most compelling artifacts.

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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • Myra Kahn Adams on the Shroud
    Jul 23 2025

    In this episode of The Backstory on the Shroud of Turin, host Guy Powell interviews Myra Kahn Adams, Executive Director of the National Shroud of Turin Exhibit and a featured speaker at the Shroud 2025 Conference.

    Myra traces her journey from a moving encounter with a crucifix modeled on the Shroud to seeing the actual cloth twice—in 2010 and 2015. She shares how her Jewish upbringing and later conversion to Catholicism gave her a unique lens through which to understand the power of the Shroud. Her moving analogy to Doubting Thomas paints the Shroud as a “proof for our time”—a visual testimony to the Resurrection of Jesus Christ for those who need evidence to believe.

    She also offers a preview of major news to be announced at the conference regarding the Shroud exhibit and its potential future home in Washington, D.C.

    From science to mystery to faith, this conversation bridges the intellectual and spiritual power of the Shroud of Turin.

    Click here to view the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdoMpVQ6A5M

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    14 mins
  • Janis Winchester on the Shroud
    Jul 15 2025

    In this episode of The Backstory on the Shroud of Turin, host Guy Powell interviews Janis Winchester—a longtime Shroud researcher, speaker, and member of the Shroud 2025 Conference committee. Janis shares how her initial curiosity transformed into a faith-deepening mission to understand the Shroud’s image, science, and message.

    Her exposure to top experts like Kevin Moran and Barry Schwortz and her use of VP8 image analysis helped her see what she describes as “unseen evidence”—particularly the blood from the lance wound and the peaceful expression on the face of the man in the cloth. These elements led her to a deep conviction: the Shroud is not just a mystery of history, but a mirror of the Gospels and the love of Jesus Christ.

    In her upcoming presentation at the Shroud 2025 Conference, Janis will guide attendees through the physical, historical, and scriptural evidence of the Shroud’s authenticity—encouraging others to come to their own conclusions while drawing closer to the peace of God.

    Click here to view the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjeflZANnFQ

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    11 mins