Do you sometimes over-rely on data to cover yourself instead of trusting your judgment?

Episode 257 of At The Table explores why leaders often cling to data, certainty, and predictability—even though business is inherently messy. Pat and Cody discuss how fear of failure drives over-analysis, slowing decisions and weakening judgment. Ultimately, they argue that great leadership is an art fueled by instinct, courage, and human interaction—not algorithms or metrics.

Topics explored in this episode:

(03:15) Data vs. Instinct in Real Business

* Why instinct and common sense dominate real executive decision-making.

* The human tendency to return to predictability even when it repeatedly fails.

(06:29) When Data Misleads and Context Matters

* How statistical predictions often fail to capture real-life variables.

* How leaders hide behind numbers to avoid personal responsibility.

(09:13) The Power of Seeing the Problem Directly

* How over-reliance on data can obscure common sense and slow down problem-solving.

(11:40) Business as Art, Not Science

* The modern trend toward treating business as a purely scientific discipline.

* Why instinct and integrative thinking will never be replaced by either data or AI.

This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.

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How does working in a “toxic” culture affect your ability to perform and trust others? Also, if your organization has an unhealthy work environment, how can leaders begin the process of internal correction?

In episode 256 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson unpack what “toxic culture” really means—and what it doesn’t. They explore how toxicity rarely starts at the bottom but usually traces back to the executive team’s dysfunction, lack of clarity, or tolerance for poor behavior. They also share the signs, causes, and antidotes of toxic workplaces, encouraging leaders to create environments rooted in honesty and accountability.

Topics explored in this episode:

(00:20) Defining “Toxic Culture”

* The importance of defining “toxic” and challenging the assumption that perks equal health.

(04:00) The Source of Toxicity

* Toxic cultures almost always originate at the executive level, not among lower-level employees.

(08:00) How to Diagnose Toxicity

* Cody compares toxic environments to poor sleep—you can feel it without needing a metric.

(13:00) What Toxic Cultures Look Like

* Key signs: political behavior, tolerated poor performance, and confusion from unclear goals.

* How even good leaders can accidentally create toxicity.

(17:00) Healing and Hope for Teams

* Every organization experiences some level of dysfunction—but honesty and ownership can fix it.

* The idea of replacing the word “toxic” with “dysfunctional” or “political,” emphasizing that healing begins with truth.

In this episode, Pat and Cody discussed the following study by the employment website, Monster: “Toxic Workplaces Are Worsening: 80% of U.S. Workers Now Say Their Job Hurts Their Mental Health”; https://www.monster.com/career-advice/job-search/news-and-insights/mental-health-in-the-workplace-poll-2025

This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.

At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube).

Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni.

Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube).

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What happens when innovation outpaces our moral compass?

In episode 255 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody wrestle with the tension between technological innovation and human dignity in the workplace. As artificial intelligence reshapes industries, they ask whether efficiency has become more important than humanity. This episode invites leaders and consumers alike to seek a moral “true north”—one that values people over profit and connection over convenience.

Topics explored in this episode:

(02:57) Innovation Without a True North

* Concern that the rise of AI could fundamentally displace human work.

* Innovation must be guided by ethics and human-centered purpose, not just economic efficiency.

(07:15) The Role of Leaders

* The need for leaders to assess whether their choices serve humanity.

(10:10) The Role of Consumers

* Consumers voting with their wallets and resisting convenience that devalues human connection.

(14:27) The Convenience Crisis

* How people increasingly prioritize ease over meaning.

(18:45) Dignity, Work, and the Future

* The deeper value of work beyond income—as a source of dignity, growth, and relationship.

This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.

At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube).

Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni.

Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube).

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This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.