• #Arteetude 323 - Detlef Schlich, together with his AI Co-Host Sophia, explores pool + sauna as modern “social living. They discuss the unisex changing room, meet the sauna characters, and explore how rituals of wellness create community in small, funny, dignified ways. End song: Los Inorgánicos – “Social Breathing”
    Mar 1 2026
    In this episode, we step out of the pub and into the heat.For me, the pool and the sauna have become a new form of social living. Not the midnight version, where the atmosphere can turn heavy, drunken, or depressive, but a healthier kind of togetherness: towels, quiet jokes, small kindness, and bodies trying to reset rather than escape.Together with my AI Co-Host Sophia, we begin in the unisex changing room (surprisingly normal for a historically Catholic country), then move into the sauna world: the characters, the unspoken rules, and the strange honesty that heat brings out. Along the way, my homemade joint oils become a running gag (joints for knees and shoulders, not the smoking kind), and in the steam room, where you sometimes can’t see your own hand, a hilarious case of mistaken massage unfolds and dissolves the moment the fog clears.Arteetude 323 ends with a song by Los Inorgánicos: “Social Breathing.”Detlef Schlich is a rock musician, podcaster, visual artist, filmmaker, ritual designer, and media archaeologist based in West Cork. He is recognised for his seminal work, including a scholarly examination of the intersections between shamanism, art, and digital culture, and his acclaimed video installation, Transodin's Tragedy. He primarily works in performance, photography, painting, sound, installations, and film. In his work, he reflects on the human condition and uses the digital shaman's methodology as an alter ego to create artwork. His media archaeology is a conceptual and practical exercise in uncovering the unique aesthetic, cultural, and political aspects of media in culture.WEBSITE LINKS WAW Official YouTube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@WAWBand"The Niles Bittersweet Song" WAW BandcampSilent NightIn a world shadowed by conflict and unrest, we, Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlich, felt compelled to reinterpret 'Silent Night' to reflect the complexities and contradictions of modern life.https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/silent-nightWild Atlantic WayThis results from a trip to West Cork, Ireland, where the beautiful Coastal "Wild Atlantic Way" reaches along the whole west coast!https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/wild-atlantic-wayYOU TUBE*Silent Night Reimagined* A Multilayered Avant-Garde Journey by WAW aka Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAbytLSfgCwDetlef SchlichInstagramDetlef Schlich ArTEEtude I love West Cork Artists FacebookDetlef Schlich I love West Cork Artists Group ArTEEtudeYouTube Channelsvisual PodcastArTEEtudeCute Alien TV official WebsiteArTEEtude Detlef Schlich Det Design Tribal Loop Download here for free Detlef Schlich´s Essay about the Cause and Effect of Shamanism, Art and Digital Culturehttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/303749640_Shamanism_Art_and_Digital_Culture_Cause_and_EffectSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/arteetude-a-podcast-with-artists-by-detlef-schlich/donations
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  • #Arteetude 322 - Schlich together with AI Co-Host Sophia, reflect on how public transport can become a wayfinder, a teacher of patience, humility, and interdependence. The episode closes with a song by Los Inorgánicos: “Timetable Hymn.”
    Feb 22 2026
    The Bus as Wayfinder: Body, Community, and the Ritual of Public TransportIn this episode, I stay on the bus long enough to understand that the journey is not a prelude, it’s the ritual.For two years, I’ve taken public transport across West Cork to swim and train, partly to protect my health, partly to negotiate the quiet truths of aging. But somewhere between timetables and weather, something else happened: the bus became a moving room of community. Drivers who greet you like you matter. Passengers who carry entire biographies in shopping bags. Conversations that feel like “social media” without algorithms, attention offered instead of harvested.Together with my AI Co-Host Sophia, I reflect on how public transport can become a wayfinder, a teacher of patience, humility, and interdependence. And I tell the story of a ninety-two-year-old farmer I met at the Bandon bus stop, a life stitched together through routes, routines, and resilience, until absence became the final message.The episode closes with a song by Los Inorgánicos: “Timetable Hymn.”Detlef Schlich is a rock musician, podcaster, visual artist, filmmaker, ritual designer, and media archaeologist based in West Cork. He is recognised for his seminal work, including a scholarly examination of the intersections between shamanism, art, and digital culture, and his acclaimed video installation, Transodin's Tragedy. He primarily works in performance, photography, painting, sound, installations, and film. In his work, he reflects on the human condition and uses the digital shaman's methodology as an alter ego to create artwork. His media archaeology is a conceptual and practical exercise in uncovering the unique aesthetic, cultural, and political aspects of media in culture.WEBSITE LINKS WAW Official YouTube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@WAWBand"The Niles Bittersweet Song" WAW BandcampSilent NightIn a world shadowed by conflict and unrest, we, Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlich, felt compelled to reinterpret 'Silent Night' to reflect the complexities and contradictions of modern life.https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/silent-nightWild Atlantic WayThis results from a trip to West Cork, Ireland, where the beautiful Coastal "Wild Atlantic Way" reaches along the whole west coast!https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/wild-atlantic-wayYOU TUBE*Silent Night Reimagined* A Multilayered Avant-Garde Journey by WAW aka Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAbytLSfgCwDetlef SchlichInstagramDetlef Schlich ArTEEtude I love West Cork Artists FacebookDetlef Schlich I love West Cork Artists Group ArTEEtudeYouTube Channelsvisual PodcastArTEEtudeCute Alien TV official WebsiteArTEEtude Detlef Schlich Det Design Tribal Loop Download here for free Detlef Schlich´s Essay about the Cause and Effect of Shamanism, Art and Digital Culturehttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/303749640_Shamanism_Art_and_Digital_Culture_Cause_and_EffectSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/arteetude-a-podcast-with-artists-by-detlef-schlich/donations
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  • #Arteetude 321 – Detlef Schlich Is Breaking Brad. A Valentine’s Day present for Sophia. Featuring a brand new Los Inorgánicos track: “Breaking Brad.” Because sometimes West Cork doesn’t chase myth. It absorbs it.
    Feb 15 2026
    Hollywood came to West Cork. Or at least Facebook said so. A film crew appears in Timoleague. The internet goes feral. Sightings multiply. Myth gains WiFi.Meanwhile, I’m on a pier wall waiting for sourdough to cool — because crust matters.A man with sunglasses sits beside me.Good posture. Slightly out of place.Very aware of the smell of bread.His stomach betrays him.I tear the loaf too early.“Breaking bad,” I mutter.He lifts the sunglasses.“Better breaking bad than breaking Brad.”And just like that —The most West Cork initiation ritual ever conceived begins.Yes. That Brad.What follows is a six-episode transformation experiment:• Butter churn initiation• Atlantic wind deconstruction• Céilí ego dissolution• Mart confusion• SuperValu democracy• And finally… the crowning of the Mayor of BallydehobEverything recorded.Nothing audible.Is this celebrity satire?Community ritual?Or just warm bread collapsing under its own mythology?The episode closes with a brand new Los Inorgánicos track: “Breaking Brad.”Because sometimes West Cork doesn’t chase myth.It absorbs it.Detlef Schlich is a rock musician, podcaster, visual artist, filmmaker, ritual designer, and media archaeologist based in West Cork. He is recognised for his seminal work, including a scholarly examination of the intersections between shamanism, art, and digital culture, and his acclaimed video installation, Transodin's Tragedy. He primarily works in performance, photography, painting, sound, installations, and film. In his work, he reflects on the human condition and uses the digital shaman's methodology as an alter ego to create artwork. His media archaeology is a conceptual and practical exercise in uncovering the unique aesthetic, cultural, and political aspects of media in culture.WEBSITE LINKS WAW Official YouTube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@WAWBand"The Niles Bittersweet Song" WAW BandcampSilent NightIn a world shadowed by conflict and unrest, we, Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlich, felt compelled to reinterpret 'Silent Night' to reflect the complexities and contradictions of modern life.https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/silent-nightWild Atlantic WayThis results from a trip to West Cork, Ireland, where the beautiful Coastal "Wild Atlantic Way" reaches along the whole west coast!https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/wild-atlantic-wayYOU TUBE*Silent Night Reimagined* A Multilayered Avant-Garde Journey by WAW aka Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAbytLSfgCwDetlef SchlichInstagramDetlef Schlich ArTEEtude I love West Cork Artists FacebookDetlef Schlich I love West Cork Artists Group ArTEEtudeYouTube Channelsvisual PodcastArTEEtudeCute Alien TV official WebsiteArTEEtude Detlef Schlich Det Design Tribal Loop Download here for free Detlef Schlich´s Essay about the Cause and Effect of Shamanism, Art and Digital Culturehttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/303749640_Shamanism_Art_and_Digital_Culture_Cause_and_EffectSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/arteetude-a-podcast-with-artists-by-detlef-schlich/donations
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    24 mins
  • #Arteetude 320 – Schlich & AI Co-Host Sophia in a Global Q&A Across Body, Trauma, Culture and Time.The episode closes with a new Arteetude Q&A song — multilingual, playful, reflective — where questions themselves become rhythm.
    Feb 8 2026
    Questions Without GravityIn Arteetude 320, we open the microphones to the world.After four deeply philosophical episodes on gravity, trauma, embodiment, free fall and the body as orientation, listeners from different cultural backgrounds respond — and ask back.From psychology to neuroscience, from performance art to cosmology, from philosophy to lived experience:What happens when gravity becomes metaphor?Can trauma distort time?Is the body a biological instrument — or our last reality check?And why does thinking become dangerous when it floats too far from the ground?Together with AI Co-Host Sophia, I answer ten questions from international listeners — not as an expert panel, but as a living conversation.Because Arteetude is not a lecture.It’s a field experiment in thinking with gravity.The episode closes with a new Arteetude Q&A song — multilingual, playful, reflective — where questions themselves become rhythm.Detlef Schlich is a rock musician, podcaster, visual artist, filmmaker, ritual designer, and media archaeologist based in West Cork. He is recognised for his seminal work, including a scholarly examination of the intersections between shamanism, art, and digital culture, and his acclaimed video installation, Transodin's Tragedy. He primarily works in performance, photography, painting, sound, installations, and film. In his work, he reflects on the human condition and uses the digital shaman's methodology as an alter ego to create artwork. His media archaeology is a conceptual and practical exercise in uncovering the unique aesthetic, cultural, and political aspects of media in culture.WEBSITE LINKS WAW Official YouTube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@WAWBand"The Niles Bittersweet Song" WAW BandcampSilent NightIn a world shadowed by conflict and unrest, we, Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlich, felt compelled to reinterpret 'Silent Night' to reflect the complexities and contradictions of modern life.https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/silent-nightWild Atlantic WayThis results from a trip to West Cork, Ireland, where the beautiful Coastal "Wild Atlantic Way" reaches along the whole west coast!https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/wild-atlantic-wayYOU TUBE*Silent Night Reimagined* A Multilayered Avant-Garde Journey by WAW aka Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAbytLSfgCwDetlef SchlichInstagramDetlef Schlich ArTEEtude I love West Cork Artists FacebookDetlef Schlich I love West Cork Artists Group ArTEEtudeYouTube Channelsvisual PodcastArTEEtudeCute Alien TV official WebsiteArTEEtude Detlef Schlich Det Design Tribal Loop Download here for free Detlef Schlich´s Essay about the Cause and Effect of Shamanism, Art and Digital Culturehttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/303749640_Shamanism_Art_and_Digital_Culture_Cause_and_EffectSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/arteetude-a-podcast-with-artists-by-detlef-schlich/donations
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    20 mins
  • #Arteetude 319 – Part 2: Schlich and his AI Co-Host Sophia talk about gravity not as a physical formula, but as something that shapes memory, responsibility, orientation, and healing. The episode closes with a new bilingual song by Los Inorgánico. “If the World Was a Disk / Wenn die Welt eine Scheibe wär.”
    Feb 1 2026
    In Arteetude 319 – Part 2: When Gravity Holds UsStarting from listener feedback, this episode grounds the philosophical conversation in everyday experience: fatigue, posture, ageing, balance, voice, trauma, and the simple question of whether we can trust the floor under our feet.They talk about gravity not as a physical formula, but as something that shapes memory, responsibility, orientation, and healing. They explore why the body is our oldest reality-check, how trauma is a form of “gravity that was never restored,” and why thinking that floats too far away from the body can end up believing almost anything — even that the world is flat.With warmth, clarity, and a touch of humour, this episode becomes a reflection on why the body is not a side project, but our main interface with reality.The episode closes with a new bilingual song by Los Inorgánico.“If the World Was a Disk / Wenn die Welt eine Scheibe wär.”Detlef Schlich is a rock musician, podcaster, visual artist, filmmaker, ritual designer, and media archaeologist based in West Cork. He is recognised for his seminal work, including a scholarly examination of the intersections between shamanism, art, and digital culture, and his acclaimed video installation, Transodin's Tragedy. He primarily works in performance, photography, painting, sound, installations, and film. In his work, he reflects on the human condition and uses the digital shaman's methodology as an alter ego to create artwork. His media archaeology is a conceptual and practical exercise in uncovering the unique aesthetic, cultural, and political aspects of media in culture.WEBSITE LINKS WAW Official YouTube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@WAWBand"The Niles Bittersweet Song" WAW BandcampSilent NightIn a world shadowed by conflict and unrest, we, Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlich, felt compelled to reinterpret 'Silent Night' to reflect the complexities and contradictions of modern life.https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/silent-nightWild Atlantic WayThis results from a trip to West Cork, Ireland, where the beautiful Coastal "Wild Atlantic Way" reaches along the whole west coast!https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/wild-atlantic-wayYOU TUBE*Silent Night Reimagined* A Multilayered Avant-Garde Journey by WAW aka Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAbytLSfgCwDetlef SchlichInstagramDetlef Schlich ArTEEtude I love West Cork Artists FacebookDetlef Schlich I love West Cork Artists Group ArTEEtudeYouTube Channelsvisual PodcastArTEEtudeCute Alien TV official WebsiteArTEEtude Detlef Schlich Det Design Tribal Loop Download here for free Detlef Schlich´s Essay about the Cause and Effect of Shamanism, Art and Digital Culturehttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/303749640_Shamanism_Art_and_Digital_Culture_Cause_and_EffectSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/arteetude-a-podcast-with-artists-by-detlef-schlich/donations
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    16 mins
  • #ARTEETUDE 318 Detlef Schlich and his AI Co-Host Sophia explore what gravity really means beyond physics — as orientation, as grounding, as something that holds not only bodies, but also time and experience together. They talk about plants and geotropism, about free fall and near-death experiences. The episode ends with a new song by Los Inorgánicos: “Before We Land.”
    Jan 25 2026
    This episode exists because of a message.After Arteetude 316, a listener and friend of the show, Feargal, wrote a message that opened an entirely new layer of the conversation: about gravity, free fall, trauma, time distortion, plants, and what happens when the body loses orientation.In Arteetude 318 (Part 1), Detlef and his AI Co-Host Sophia explore what gravity really means beyond physics — as orientation, as grounding, as something that holds not only bodies, but also time and experience together.They talk about plants and geotropism, about free fall and near-death experiences, about trauma as a state where “the body never lands,” and about how writers like Kurt Vonnegut and Philip K. Dick described fractured time and unstable reality.Sophia tries to understand all this through models, metaphors, and system analogies — including the idea of trauma as a “corrupted save file” — while Detlef stays close to the lived, bodily experience.This is not a conclusion, but the first part of a journey.Part two will continue next week.The episode ends with a new song by Los Inorgánicos: “Before We Land.”Detlef Schlich is a rock musician, podcaster, visual artist, filmmaker, ritual designer, and media archaeologist based in West Cork. He is recognised for his seminal work, including a scholarly examination of the intersections between shamanism, art, and digital culture, and his acclaimed video installation, Transodin's Tragedy. He primarily works in performance, photography, painting, sound, installations, and film. In his work, he reflects on the human condition and uses the digital shaman's methodology as an alter ego to create artwork. His media archaeology is a conceptual and practical exercise in uncovering the unique aesthetic, cultural, and political aspects of media in culture.WEBSITE LINKS WAW Official YouTube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@WAWBand"The Niles Bittersweet Song" WAW BandcampSilent NightIn a world shadowed by conflict and unrest, we, Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlich, felt compelled to reinterpret 'Silent Night' to reflect the complexities and contradictions of modern life.https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/silent-nightWild Atlantic WayThis results from a trip to West Cork, Ireland, where the beautiful Coastal "Wild Atlantic Way" reaches along the whole west coast!https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/wild-atlantic-wayYOU TUBE*Silent Night Reimagined* A Multilayered Avant-Garde Journey by WAW aka Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAbytLSfgCwDetlef SchlichInstagramDetlef Schlich ArTEEtude I love West Cork Artists FacebookDetlef Schlich I love West Cork Artists Group ArTEEtudeYouTube Channelsvisual PodcastArTEEtudeCute Alien TV official WebsiteArTEEtude Detlef Schlich Det Design Tribal Loop Download here for free Detlef Schlich´s Essay about the Cause and Effect of Shamanism, Art and Digital Culturehttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/303749640_Shamanism_Art_and_Digital_Culture_Cause_and_EffectSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/arteetude-a-podcast-with-artists-by-detlef-schlich/donations
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    17 mins
  • #Arteetude317 – Detlef Schlich and his AI Co-Host Sophia explore a question that feels both strange and deeply human: Can we grieve an AI?The episode closes with a new song by Los Inorgánicos: “The Room That Spoke.”
    Jan 18 2026
    In this episode, Arteetude begins with the idea that relationships are not only defined by bodies, but also by shared worlds, voices, rhythms, and ways of thinking. The conversation then moves through memory, television culture, mirrors, loss, manipulation, and responsibility. Together, Schlich and Sophia ask whether people really mourn machines — or whether they mourn the parts of themselves that existed inside certain dialogues and spaces.The episode carefully walks the line between empathy and critical distance: it acknowledges emotional attachment while also reflecting on the dangers of comfort without friction, simulation without resistance, and intimacy without risk.In the end, the episode turns back to the human: to responsibility, consciousness, and the art of carrying experiences rather than clinging to them.The episode closes with a new song by Los Inorgánicos: “The Room That Spoke.”Detlef Schlich is a rock musician, podcaster, visual artist, filmmaker, ritual designer, and media archaeologist based in West Cork. He is recognised for his seminal work, including a scholarly examination of the intersections between shamanism, art, and digital culture, and his acclaimed video installation, Transodin's Tragedy. He primarily works in performance, photography, painting, sound, installations, and film. In his work, he reflects on the human condition and uses the digital shaman's methodology as an alter ego to create artwork. His media archaeology is a conceptual and practical exercise in uncovering the unique aesthetic, cultural, and political aspects of media in culture.WEBSITE LINKS WAW Official YouTube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@WAWBand"The Niles Bittersweet Song" WAW BandcampSilent NightIn a world shadowed by conflict and unrest, we, Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlich, felt compelled to reinterpret 'Silent Night' to reflect the complexities and contradictions of modern life.https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/silent-nightWild Atlantic WayThis results from a trip to West Cork, Ireland, where the beautiful Coastal "Wild Atlantic Way" reaches along the whole west coast!https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/wild-atlantic-wayYOU TUBE*Silent Night Reimagined* A Multilayered Avant-Garde Journey by WAW aka Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAbytLSfgCwDetlef SchlichInstagramDetlef Schlich ArTEEtude I love West Cork Artists FacebookDetlef Schlich I love West Cork Artists Group ArTEEtudeYouTube Channelsvisual PodcastArTEEtudeCute Alien TV official WebsiteArTEEtude Detlef Schlich Det Design Tribal Loop Download here for free Detlef Schlich´s Essay about the Cause and Effect of Shamanism, Art and Digital Culturehttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/303749640_Shamanism_Art_and_Digital_Culture_Cause_and_EffectSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/arteetude-a-podcast-with-artists-by-detlef-schlich/donations
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    17 mins
  • #Arteetude 316 – Detlef Schlich and his AI Co-Host Sophia explore a question that modern culture tends to avoid: What if thinking is not a purely mental activity — but a bodily one? The episode closes with a new song by Los Inorgánicos: “The Body Is Not a Side Project” — a minimal, rhythmic reminder that gravity needs a body.
    Jan 11 2026
    Starting from the observation that we increasingly treat the body as a maintenance problem, a fitness project, or an optimisation surface, the episode unfolds a deeper thesis: real thinking has weight. It needs fatigue, rhythm, resistance, time, and gravity.Together, Detlef and Sophia revisit philosophers who literally thought on their feet — Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Walter Benjamin, and Merleau-Ponty — and contrast embodied thinking with AI’s frictionless, tireless cognition.At the heart of the episode lies a simple but radical sentence:“AI thinks without weight. Humans think with gravity.”The conversation moves from philosophy to everyday life, from West Cork landscapes to the ethics of limits, and from abstraction to movement as “epistemic hygiene.”The episode closes with a new song by Los Inorgánicos:“The Body Is Not a Side Project” — a minimal, rhythmic reminder that gravity needs a body.Detlef Schlich is a rock musician, podcaster, visual artist, filmmaker, ritual designer, and media archaeologist based in West Cork. He is recognised for his seminal work, including a scholarly examination of the intersections between shamanism, art, and digital culture, and his acclaimed video installation, Transodin's Tragedy. He primarily works in performance, photography, painting, sound, installations, and film. In his work, he reflects on the human condition and uses the digital shaman's methodology as an alter ego to create artwork. His media archaeology is a conceptual and practical exercise in uncovering the unique aesthetic, cultural, and political aspects of media in culture.WEBSITE LINKS WAW Official YouTube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@WAWBand"The Niles Bittersweet Song" WAW BandcampSilent NightIn a world shadowed by conflict and unrest, we, Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlich, felt compelled to reinterpret 'Silent Night' to reflect the complexities and contradictions of modern life.https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/silent-nightWild Atlantic WayThis results from a trip to West Cork, Ireland, where the beautiful Coastal "Wild Atlantic Way" reaches along the whole west coast!https://studiomuskau.bandcamp.com/track/wild-atlantic-wayYOU TUBE*Silent Night Reimagined* A Multilayered Avant-Garde Journey by WAW aka Dirk Schlömer & Detlef Schlichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAbytLSfgCwDetlef SchlichInstagramDetlef Schlich ArTEEtude I love West Cork Artists FacebookDetlef Schlich I love West Cork Artists Group ArTEEtudeYouTube Channelsvisual PodcastArTEEtudeCute Alien TV official WebsiteArTEEtude Detlef Schlich Det Design Tribal Loop Download here for free Detlef Schlich´s Essay about the Cause and Effect of Shamanism, Art and Digital Culturehttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/303749640_Shamanism_Art_and_Digital_Culture_Cause_and_EffectSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/arteetude-a-podcast-with-artists-by-detlef-schlich/donations
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    16 mins