In their first ever hip hop review, Bianca and Julian dive deep into Tyler, The Creator’s surprise release — the short, sharp, and wildly unpredictable “Don’t Tap the Glass.” At just 28 minutes, the album plays like a kaleidoscope of genre tropes, blending sincerity with satire in true Tyler fashion. But is it just a fun side project, or more evidence to support Bianca and Julian's Sad Boy Summer theory?

Bianca and Julian trace the emotional undercurrents of the album, exploring how its tongue-in-cheek narrative style fits into their larger theory about masculinity, performance, and emotional dissonance in 2025’s musical landscape. Along the way, they open up about their own journeys into the world of alternative hip hop.

Julian was once a hip hop producer? Bianca had one-sided beef with a music producer that wasn’t Finneas? You’ll have to listen to learn more!

Plus quick takes on:

• Taylor Swift’s “The Life of a Showgirl” and New Heights interview
• Chappell Roan’s “The Subway”
• The Jonas Brothers’ “Greetings from Your Hometown” — a brief, but honest, review of the pros and cons

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In Episode 22 of Anything But Toto, Bianca and Julian present a working theory: what if the end of Brat Summer and the rise of 2025’s “Sad Boy” music moment aren’t just musical trends — but symptoms of a bigger political and cultural shift?

They trace a narrative from the euphoric highs of 2024 — Charli, Sabrina, Chappell, Taylor, Beyonce, Billie, and Ariana — to a 2025 dominated by uncertainty, grief, and male uncertainty. As the Biden/Kamala era of feminist pop gives way to a new presidency built on macho bravado and male rage, pop culture enters a holding pattern: no song of the summer, no girlie anthems, just a flood of emotionally confused men with microphones.

From the softness of Justin Bieber’s Swag to Joe Jonas' post-divorce reflections, from Oasis’ brotherly reunion to Djo’s brotherly ballads — this episode digs into how masculinity is being redefined in the era of Trump. Is the music industry unintentionally staging a group therapy session for conflicted men?

Also covered in this episode:

- Paul McCartney’s “Got Back” tour comes to Canada.

- Kesha’s Toronto show

- Bianca’s second interview with Beach Boys tour member, Matt Jardine

- Ari Aster’s Eddington

- Bianca and Julian’s rewatch/first viewing of Desperate Housewives

A season with no anthem and a whole lot of feelings — “Sad Boy Summer” is here, and it's saying more than we think. This is an episode you won’t want to miss.

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In Part 2 of their deep dive into the legacy of the Beach Boys' Brian Wilson, Bianca and Julian unpack how his post-Pet Sounds work helped shape entire branches of modern indie rock - including lo-fi, outsider music, dream pop, synth pop, and chillwave. Did Brian Wilson invent the first interactive/remix album? Was he behind one of the first children’s records by a major rock artist? And what’s considered his final masterpiece?

All that and more in Anything But Toto Ep. 21!

ICYMI: Check out Part 1 for a look at Brian’s groundbreaking work from 1961-1966.

Also in this episode:

• Taylor Swift: reclaiming her masters and the directorial debut rumors
• Wicked for Good - will it be as good as the first installment?
• Sombr’s “We Never Dated”
• New singles from the Jonas Brothers and Sabrina Carpenter: a nod to the Bee Gees and Chappell Roan… or too close for comfort?
• Plus: Sabrina’s album cover controversy

CW: This episode contains discussions of child abuse, mental illness, suicide, and substance use. Listener discretion is advised.

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