This week's episode feels less like an interview and more like a homecoming. Jay sits down to steep in a conversation with Angelo Lazenka, one of her main mentors who shaped her life and work.

Angelo is wilderness rites of passage guide and the former Director and President of the School of Lost Borders. He has worked with thousands of individuals seeking growth and insight in the wilderness and brings deep insight into the practice of living, dying, and the healing of the "lie of separation."

At 72 years old, Angelo is stepping away from the role of guide and moving into the next chapter of elderhood. In that way, this conversation comes from a "liminal space," the in-between times when you are no longer who you were, but not yet who you are becoming.

► What rites of passage really are—and why they are so rare and necessary in our time.

► The vital distinction between self-improvement and true intimacy with life.

► Healing the "lie of separation" between ourselves, nature, and one another.

► Navigating the shift from adulthood into the rich, stewardship-focused territory of elderhood.

► How to answer the call of "that which you've always been, but have yet to become."

► Website: www.schooloflostborders.org

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